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fox news columnist served in bush bhows during hurricane katrina. welcome karl, nice to see you. so what do voters expect from governors and presidents particularly governors here when you have a natural disaster like this? >> well they expect governor to be in charge and to have mobilized both local governments, state government, and private institutions to mediate the aftermath and to be able to help peel get back on their feet. this is a test if you will ofen frontline leadership of a governor and also in some instances the mayor of big cities have a big role to place but governor...

They've chosen to obstruct instead of work in a bipartisan way to achieve something they've long claimed they wanted to do. senator manchin, myself and others will continue to have conversation bs the best way to ensure responsible permitting reforms passed before the end of the year. paul: we're back our panel dan and kim strassel and kyle peterson so kyle i think joe manchin had thought he get the votes of enough republicans to break a filibuster but he didn't. why did republicans oppose this in the end? >> well i think the manchin has only himself to blame. and i would point to a few things...