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from outside europe. and the british public will be invited to swear allegiance to king charles, and his heirs, during his coronation on saturday. now on bbc news, hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk, i'm stephen sackur. there — i've just used seven words and communicated quite a lot. words can bind us together or push us apart. in a sense, we are all wordsmiths, but many of us shy away from the art form that best harnesses the power of words — poetry. but not my guest today. john cooper clarke was once dubbed �*the punk poet'. all his life, he has used words, rhythm and rhyme to fin...

but not my guest today. john cooper clarke was once dubbed �*the punk poet'. all his life, he has used words, rhythm and rhyme to find humour and truth in the chaos of everyday life. thanks to the internet, one of his poems has become a worldwide viral sensation. so, where does his word magic come from? john cooper clarke, welcome to hardtalk. hello, stephen. it's great to have you here, john. ijust read your memoir and one of the first sentences in it is this one — "all my life, all i ever wanted to be was a professional poet." now, i've heard of kids who want to be train driver...

john cooper clarke was once dubbed "the punk poet". all his life, he has used words, rhythm and rhyme to find humour and truth in the chaos of everyday life. thanks to the internet, one of his poems has become a worldwide viral sensation. so, where does his word magic come from? john cooper clarke, welcome to hardtalk. hello, stephen. it's great to have you here, john. ijust read your memoir and one of the first sentences in it is this one — "all my life, all i ever wanted to be was a professional poet." now, i've heard of kids who want to be train drivers, professional footballers...

all his life, he has used words, rhythm and rhyme to find humour and truth in the chaos of everyday life. thanks to the internet, one of his poems has become a worldwide viral sensation. so, where does his word magic come from? john cooper clarke, welcome to hardtalk. hello, stephen. it's great to have you here, john. ijust read your memoir and one of the first sentences in it is this one — "all my life, all i ever wanted to be was a professional poet." now, i've heard of kids who want to be train drivers, professional footballers, but very rare to find a kid who always knew he wan...

When you read my poems, i need an angle on things — you've gotta get an angle on things — and in order to do that, what i do is very often, don't look for me in these poems all the time because most of the time — 80% of the time, they're works of imagination. i've heard a conversation somewhere, i'm inhabiting the mind that i imagine belongs to somebody else who's nothing like me. i can think of a million examples of that in my work, you know, where i'm adopt... if you're a poet, you're an adopter of positions. crosstalk. and sometime extreme positions that aren't necessarily coming from...