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Very valuable to them, but the specifics were not there. so we don't know specifically how he's been valuable, and he will be -- he believes, his camp believes he will continue to be valuable. again, a difference with the southern district of new york who said he is not a credible witness, goodbye, you didn't cooperate fully, versus the special counsel. it was good cop/bad cop with the special counsel saying, "he is very valuable to us." we don't know how. >> to clear the idea what a full cooperator would be, it is not somebody who just confirms details they already know. a cooperator means yo...

Are they playing a good cop/bad cop here do you think? >> i think they're playing their respective roles and they're akuwaiting themselves as they should in the investigations. the one thing i would say is i don't read them as inconsistent because what the u.s. attorney's office is saying, he walked in here, he's a career criminal, and he's a lawyer who's a career criminal which matters a lot when we think about sentencing, and he's a career criminal who's a criminal and walked in and bold face lied in our faces -- >> and went out -- >> and went out and said, by the way, i should be treated be...

National security. >> yeah, you kind of -- you kind of wonder if vladimir is sitting here looking at this, i will see your ft. trump and raise you trump tower in moscow. that's kind of in trump's wheelhouse. but you're right, joe, i mean, this is a very interesting moment for what the president is doing in foreign policy, particularly in eastern europe, where he is pushing up against the russian bear in a way that his rhetoric at home at least with respect to putin would indicate, you know, he wouldn't do that. there is the good cop/bad cop concept within the administration, the president is t...

We're not gonna allow people time off. that all wears on police officers. that's what's contributed to the problems in this city. >> laura: let's go to melanie brown, who prefers not to reveal her political party. melanie, welcome. >> thank you for having me. all right. so we know that all police aren't bad. you know? but when some of the police officers hurt our community, then we feel like some of the other police officers should come together and try to help the community because they should care about what the community this about the police department. i just wonder, whatever happened to ...

Clinton server, in my view, probably could have been hacked by latvian teenagers or criminals or uruguayans or whoever. i think that was another huge insecurity in the last administration. but right now we have serious problems that are facing us. what are we going to do about north korea which continues to develop fissile material for nuclear weapons, continues to manufacture their prototype icbm, has not done an inventory of their nuclear capacity, has made no effort to come up with a concept on a verifiable denuclearization. they're simply not going to do it. the white house doesn't know wh...