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Is saying and i just wonder again whether we're looking at a bad, a good cop-bad cop routine where we heard leaks over the weekend that the president was telling everybody just relax i'm being the bad cop. mike pence on russia. mike pence talks like ronald reagan when he is in the baltic states. he says exactly what you or i would want this administration to say. at some point, 8 months in, it can't be an accident at a all of these policy leaders inside the administration are towing the same line. it just happens to be a line that's differ from the president's bluster. >> the difference there ...

The same tune here. >> the great leaders that i have seen, they don't threaten unless they are ready to act. i am not sure that president trump is ready to act. >> president trump has basically drawne a redline, saying that he'll never allow north korea to have an icbm missile that can hit america. he won't let that happen. he's not going to contain the threat. he will stop the threat. >> brian: fascinating. meanwhile, the media's more upsets for the president's choice of words than the actual threat of war. >> you don't think that the president's comments are at odds with those of the secreta...

A clear message. his words were unmistakable. he said, further threats will result in fire, fury and power like the world has never seen. that's something pretty clear to understand. there have been further threats since he said it and there's been no reaction yet. we'll see if this just is written off as just another thing donald trump says or it reflects some new policy. but so far there's just been no change, notwithstanding the threat. >> john kirby, in the course of today, we first saw secretary of state rex tillerson deliver what was widely seen as a much more restrained statement, follo...

Words do matter and to say maybe we'll have some kind of a strike against them or take military action, any military action against north korea because they're so unpredictable and you know that better than any of us we don't know what he would do. would he then turn to a nuclear weapon? >> he's also doing the good cop routine with china at the moment. every interview you read he is highly respected. what we know about donald trump is if the carat doesn't work he will go to the stick. the chinese president lied to me so that's the issue. that's a concerted strategy to pressure china with the g...

Campaign? that's one of the issues we are exploring. on the other hand i can tell you that we have done pretty well on the internet. the average contribution when i ran for the senate was something like $45. so you need a lot of those types of contributions to add up. but do i think we could do it? yeah i think we could raise a reasonable amount of money. >> if you take a shot, are you going as a d'or or as an i? >> there are advantages and disadvantages of both. i think there's a lot of unhappiness with the two-party system. more and more people are moving outside of it. on the other hand if ...