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How was he such a hero? >> that's who he was. he literally trained for these kinds of things his hole career. he experienced other critical incidences. certainly nothing of this magnitude. again, as a member of our swat team, he was a very talented investigator. he worked in our narcotics task force for many years. even though he was a year aware from requirement, he worked just as hard on his last day working as he did on his first. he was that kind of guy. truly dedicated. i -- processing this is really difficult. probably the emotions will come later when we're wrapping things up here. but ...

Years as well. i've known ron throughout my career. we've at times worked together. you know, we're a pretty big county, so we're not always working in the same building or the same assignment, but i've had the pleasure and the privilege of working directly with him as an investigator, as a patrol deputy, and he was a cop's cop. he was the guy -- he's the guy that if you were the victim of a crime, he's the guy you want investigating it because he'll go to every length to find the person responsible. he was thorough. he was patient, he was kind, calm no matter what was happening. i mean, he wa...

They can blame nypd and gangs as we talked about earlier, but this is the failure of the mayor of the city of new york. period. >> where do we go from here and remedy this situation? how do we allow the commissioner and the mayor to work well together? >> i don't think it's going to happen. i think we are beyond that now. we're talking about death. >> something has to happen, this is going to get out of control and get worse and worse. >> perhaps the governor or someone at a higher level has to step in. and i would not recommend eric holder or the president of the united states because they ha...