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it is not effective for anyone. >> the city functions well when you have a mayor at the top and the support of law enforcement do. you think that the mayor is undermined this morning? >> clayton, you bring up a very good point. this is a time, especially now, that the city and this country needs strong leadership. we need someone who is going to work together with law enforcement to remind everybody those good people and those who are going to commit criminal acts, that we are a nation of laws. that we are founded on the premise that we all follow the law. and when we have the mayor as we do here in new york city right now, who is at odds with police. when we need that support and that connection more than ever, it's going to lead to more criminal activity in my opinion. >> we can't have a fire being lit under people to take action into their up hands. >> you have a mayor who put up a higher fence at his home and then asks police officers right before christmas to go into terrible neighborhoods and to try to quell the problems, the
against a backdrop of real hostility between the new york city police department. they widely acknowledge they are the most confident and professional in this country. and mayor bill de blasio elected a little more than a year ago after michael bloomberg. really, from the perspective of cops, he declared war on the nypd, especially after the eric garner case, describing the police department as racist, living off the legacy of hundreds of years of racism here in new york. and boy, there's no love lost there. >> and you saw this play out last night in this video. dark video here, but the message is clear. the police officers turning their back on mayor de blasio. you can see he's the tallest one of the bunch as he walks by here on his way to the press conference. there he is walking through. notice all the police officers with their backs turned to the mayor as he makes his way to the podium. >> that is just the picture of
violence in brooklyn. how do those two scare? >> you can't reconcile those two decisions of this mayor. it's an inherent inconsistency to say, i'm going to build with my limitless funds greater protection from the bad people and i'm going to tell the police officers, you go out and you put yourself in further jeopardy. we should be seeing this mayor and the police working together. i'm wearing blue today in support of our fallen police officers. and i know so many good people believe that the police need the support of our local and state government. and they are not getting it right now. >> we definitely need unity with the government and the police officers. >> we have the mayor call on the relationship with the police officers and al sharpton. >> to take it to this extreme, to be shouting "kill the cops!" it is just too much inciting
disfunction right there. the new york city mayor historically, going back to teddy roosevelt who was police commissioner on the city, one of the key jobs of the mayor is to keep order to a city of 8 million people. things can fall apart quickly. they have fallen apart quickly in recent decades. but it could go backward. this is a very big deal. >> you have to work well with the police department because they are the guys to keep the city safe. and they have cleaned it up so much. >> i tell you, it's funny you bring up teddy roosevelt, i was thinking of him earlier. he would show up as police commissioner at midnight at random spot where is the police were on patrol. he showed leadership in a city that desperately needed it. it was one of the most corrupt places in the world. >> we want to show you the extended quote from pat lip ch, head of the police union in new york city.
bratton is going to put up with this? >> that's a good point. he describes the crimes as a political act. that's really the way the mayor talked about it. people are responding to their oppression by committing crimes. that's the way he sees it. don't you worry there's going to be a lot more crime? >> well, exactly. as we said in the beginning, this was a bad guy/good guy issue. never a racial issue. the mayor made it into a racial issue and a political act. the mayor made it a mess and two police officers are dead as a result of it. epic failure in leadership of the mayor's office. >> we'll have mayor giuliani on throughout the show this morning to respond to the crisis now in the city government over the shootings. >> steve, thank you. >> you're welcome. we'll continue to follow the top story this morning. and that, of course, is the tragic murder of two new york police officers killed in cold murder yesterday in brooklyn. what happens when outrage over
turned his back on them. so that's why they are doing this in protest. >> we want to bring in a former fbi joint task force member here with us onset. thank you for joining us this morning. >> you're welcome. >> so this obviously, this tragedy, reveals among other things a profound level of distrust between the police in new york city and the mayor. >> look, the mayor of the city of new york embraced al sharpton. and through their rhetoric and through their inflammatory remarks about the nypd, they now have blood on their hands. and they can't spin this or pivot this to anything else. the most epic leadership. the mayor of new york city. >> many people are calling for the mayor to resign. what are your thoughts on that? >> he should but he won't. and i think he's going to lose a good police commissioner soon enough bill bratton is going to step down. i think he's going to be fed up to a point that he can no longer control what the mayor is doing. >> let's listen to mayor de blasio on saturday. take a listen.
brutal killings we saw unfolding last night in a community in brooklyn? bernard carrick was a former police commissioner the wake of september 11th. in fact, president bush appointed him to establish authority in iraq after the invasion there. he also grew up and was born in newark, new jersey. which you and i talked about and the violence, the rise that unfolded. what is his thoughts now? what are his thoughts on the violence that has unfolded in the city? take a listen. >> this reminds me of the days back in the '60s and '70s when we faced the executions of new york city cops in this circumstance. i believe, i personal feel that mayor de blasio, sharpton and others like them, they actually have blood on their hands. they encouraged this behavior. they encouraged protests. these so-called peaceful
they can blame nypd and gangs as we talked about earlier, but this is the failure of the mayor of the city of new york. period. >> where do we go from here and remedy this situation? how do we allow the commissioner and the mayor to work well together? >> i don't think it's going to happen. i think we are beyond that now. we're talking about death. >> something has to happen, this is going to get out of control and get worse and worse. >> perhaps the governor or someone at a higher level has to step in. and i would not recommend eric holder or the president of the united states because they have a bit to blame in this situation, too. but the governor's office perhaps should get involved to bring someone in that can actually control the situation. >> you said you do think de blasio should step down at the beginning of the interview. but then you said you think bratton will step down, too. but how will that affect the police officers? >> it would be devastating, but bill brotton is a cop's cop. he's a great commissioner, but his boss is the mayor. how long do you think bill br
mayor of new york and the attorney of the united states that the problem is racist cops. the cops don't like you because of your skin color. have you ever heard the president mention criminals? >> of course not. and both of the people who died, they were in the middle of criminality. they were not just pulled over because they were black. they were in the middle of criminality. that's a ridiculous statement. and the mayor has to let people protest, but this is what i don't understand. there have been millions of protests. it doesn't come with shutting down bridges and shutting down highways. it comes with police barricades and this is the area where you can protest. that's violation number one. and i have to tell you the truth, the other thing that really burns me up is, okay, people are allowed to say what they want. you're allowed to burn the american flag. so you're allowed to be a jerk. fine. but when you have people screaming, what do we want?
issue. you remember the news report last week where there was a march throughout part of midtown manhattan in new york city where a group was caught on camera chanting, accoukill cops. and people are trying to draw a line on that in social media. we are seeing people repeat that saying, this is not what may have incited this alleged killer of the officers in brooklyn. and that continues to go on. we'll take a look at another tweet coming up here. this from sba. >> this is from the police sergeant association. >> this is out against the mayor. the blood of two executed police officers is in the hands of mayor de blasio. may got bld bless their familied may they rest in peace. you saw the dramatic video earlier of the police officers turning their backs on him sparking more and more social