it is not effective for anyone. >> the city functions well when you have a mayor at the top and the support of law enforcement do. you think that the mayor is undermined this morning? >> clayton, you bring up a very good point. this is a time, especially now, that the city and this country needs strong leadership. we need someone who is going to work together with law enforcement to remind everybody those good people and those who are going to commit criminal acts, that we are a nation of laws. that we are founded on the premise that we all follow the law. and when we have the mayor as we do here in new york city right now, who is at odds with police. when we need that support and that connection more than ever, it's going to lead to more criminal activity in my opinion. >> we can't have a fire being lit under people to take action into their up hands. >> you have a mayor who put up a higher fence at his home and then asks police officers right before christmas to go into terrible neighborhoods and to try to quell the problems, the