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>> you didn't even read the case. you didn't read the evidence. >> there was conflicting testimony. some people are going off of the testimony you said. some people are going over the other testimony. that's not my concern. my concern is the start of the conversation. if you want to talk to people who have other concerns, have them on your show. >> evidence isn't a concern if you're going to take a position on a case? in other words, if michael brown didn't -- >> i am -- i have not read the transcript because my interest is not in what happened. my interest is what should happen. where we go f...

Transcript because my interest is not in what happened. my interest is what should happen. where we go forward from here. that is my interest. thank you very much. >> i have one last question. is there a lesson to be learned that people shouldn't rob stores, intimidate clerks, fight for cops guns and charge at them like football players with their heads down? is that a lesson to learn? >> that lesson gets taught every day. i certainly hope everybody learns there's a larger lesson here. and that lesson is between law enforcement and the communities they police. let's get together, let's figure ...