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Nypd detective bo deitl, president of the institute of the 21st century -- can you point to any specific evidence that racism is involved in either case? >> well, there's a pattern -- >> i asked is there any specific evidence. >> in many cases black communities are targeted. >> i didn't ask that. this is important. de blasio said centuries of racism has brought us to think day. give me any evidence that there's any race involvement in either case. >> we don't know specific. but what we doe know in terms of criminal justice policy, established many studies that black men are more likely to get ...

To all american who is are disturbed by the demonstrations that are taking place across this nation, i want you to remember these four words, no justice, no peace. >> these demonstrations show that this issue of detention and stopping of black men especially black men in the streets has been simmering below the surface. >> joining me now cbc member congresswoman eleanor holmes norton. you say the issue of, you know, detention and stopping black men in the street, you are -- did you read the evidence that was released in this case? >> i did not. and that is not a concern. >> the evidence isn't ...

Surface. >> joining me now cbc member congresswoman eleanor holmes norton. you say the issue of, you know, detention and stopping black men in the street, you are -- did you read the evidence that was released in this case? >> i did not. and that is not a concern. >> the evidence isn't a concern? >> for me -- >> what? >> for me, out of this tragedy now eric garner has come a much larger concern and a much larger picture. >> these are words you're saying -- >> that has -- >> you have a position of power. you're saying that the evidence in the case that the -- >> -- >> the reason michael brown w...

Talking about high school dropouts, we should be talking about poverty rates. there are much more important problems facing the black community than a rare instance when an unarmed black person is killed by a cop, sean. >> pick one city, niger, for example, chicago, and how much black-on-black crime has been there. there's been murder after murder after murder. nobody knows the names of the victims there. nobody knows these innocent lives that were taken. you know, human potential wasted. and you don't hear from the agitators or the activists in this case. and it's been going on now for years....

Believe that my faith and all faiths uphold the sacredness of life -- >> reporter: do you feel the justice system was served in these cases or not? >> no, i feel we live in a state of an injustice system. i think the justice system seldom serves for people and people of color in new york and everywhere in the united states. >> reporter: ma'am, could i ask you your thoughts and why you're here this evening? >> the same reason. i don't think that there's justice for people -- for colored people in this country. >> reporter: the case being made in the michael brown case that many of the eyewitnes...