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What does that mean here for the trajectory of where we could see? do you anticipate other states to enact copy cat laws? >> absolutely. that's why i said this is the loudest alarm yet, right, that abortion rights are in grave danger across the country. this bill is so extreme, and it is purely a part of a national agenda to limit and curtail access to abortion in this country. there are 25 states in addition to texas that are poised to essentially engage in some kind of copy cat form and i think the supreme court gave a nod to the possibility that this kind of law would go unchallenged. so i ...

Each other to commit crimes or worse, mass murder. >> the suspect posted a pdf of his plans on 8chan, but that wasn't enough time for the fbi to react. >> clearly there was not enough time for law enforcement to be able to use that information to intercept this mass killer. it's not possible. >> reporter: nbc law enforcement expert jim kavanaugh says federal surveillance is not allowed. in that posting detailing his plans, the suspected shooter expressed his support for the shooter in new zealand at a massac massacre earlier this year, targeting muslims and killing over 50 people in christ chu...

That is all that i know. i assume the police already know a good bit more than that. i'm -- connie and i are on the way to dayton soon after this interview is completed. we've left our home in cleveland this morning and heading south and going to dayton and will be there sometime this afternoon. >> is there any reason to believe that there is any connection whatsoever between what happened in el paso and what happened in dayton, a copy cat or a similar white supremacist ideology in is there any indication as of now? >> i have no way of knowing that. i just would ask -- i would just hope the pr...

As it stands the victim's mass murder. ohio. >> reporter: minutes before the police say a lone gunman was families aren't the only ones carnage in el paso the suspect dressed in body armor and hefrs posted a pdf of his plans, but receiving counseling. members of law enforcement have a -- he was armed with an assault that wasn't enough time for the rifle. been told counseling is fbi to react. this just hours after 20 available. that's a testament to the >> clearly there was not enough people were killed. 26 others wounded at the local horrific nature of what they time for law enforcement to b...

So we can trak take the precaut moving forward. >> so this gets complicated. in the finning tbeginning the fe were close together. we thought there might have been a race element. the fourth was a different dem gra s -- demographic and a different type of bomb. this is a different area using different methodology, sending a package to someone through a trackable service like fedex. are you thinking this is the same person or are you thinking other people might be taking advantage of this. >> i think it's the same person, the trip wire person. it might be a copy cat. that one is a little more c...