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Then worked as a truck driver. his only run-ins in the law were the traffic infractions, a couple in pennsylvania, perhaps out in ohio as well. and spending time in florida. i don't have clarity yet on the tampa connection except he spent some time living and perhaps working down there. most of the information we're having right now is from what has taken place up here in new york. >> jonathan dienst, i know it's been an incredibly busy day for you. nobody works the cases like you do. we really appreciate you joining us tonight. >> thank you. >> we're joined now by jim cavanaugh, a retired atf...

Undercuts what he believes is his authority as the commander in chief. >> exactly. it's worse than that. we are now talking about the prescriptions and hearings are talking about the prescriptions. he's not even accepting the diagnostics. let's be clear about that. he's still talks about the russian fake scandal. so i'm not optimistic it's going to happen in the next cycle and therefore there will be behavior like this and there will be copycat behavior like this from other foreign actors. and from other people inside our country that want to use these same mechanisms to xaser balt tensions an...

Out in ohio as well. and spending time in florida. i don't have clarity yet on the tampa connection except he spent some time living and perhaps working down there. most of the information we're having right now is from what has taken place up here in new york. >> jonathan dienst, i know it's been an incredibly busy day for you. nobody works the cases like you do. we really appreciate you joining us tonight. >> thank you. >> we're joined now by jim cavanaugh, a retired atf special agent in charge and now an msnbc law enforcement analyst. jim, what do you make of this case as you read it so far...

Kids are in danger or have been. and a lot of relieved parents, i can imagine, that we're looking at right now, looking for and looking to reunite with their kids. jim, we don't know a lot about who this person was, who this alleged shooter was, but is there -- is there a danger that the more that these things happen that it triggers copycat behavior maybe among other young people who are depressed, looking for a perverse kind of fame? we have to report on these things, it's our responsibility. is this becoming a trend or are we just noticing it more and this is something that's always happene...

And that's been well validated in many different ways since. and that information turned out in some respects not to be 100% correct. but the notion that somehow i or anybody else in the administration mislead the american people is patently false. and i think that that's been amply demonstrated. >> what she meant by not 100% correct is when she first testified, you'll hear, she said there was a demonstration that turned into an attack. all that was a result, by the bipartisan senate intelligence committee of going back to a copycat behavior by the crowds and the bad people who did this horrib...