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What do you say to them? >> a lot of those guys are still supporting trump publicly because they feel like they have to. they are afraid of the mean tweet, going crazy rip shit bonkers on them. they are afraid of the legal consequences coming. they are afraid of the structural problems that trump is going to bring them in 2018. mike pence feels like a safety blanket. he feels like a soft landing for a lot of these guys. i don't think it would be that easy politically if pence gets caught up in the stipulate stream. i don't know all the information yet. we don't know how involved pence was hiri...

Campaign. but i can only speak for myselves and the russians, zero. i think it divides the country. i think we have a very divided country because of that and many other things. so i can tell you that we want to bring this great country of ours together. >> the president, if he becomes a witness under oath for a special prosecutor will not be the first president who became a witness for a special prosecutor under oath. today he got a bit of a rehearsal for what that might be like. he was asked a question today that he may some day be asked by the special prosecutor. >> did you at any time urge...

Actually had a one-word answer when he was asked -- no. >> yeah. the answer was no. when he was asked did you try to get james comey to back down in this investigation, it was a one-word answer that he wanted to say more than once, no, no. >> no, no, no. next question. well, you're right, lawrence. he -- that's the only restraint he has shown in the last day. he was quiet for, let's say, 12 hours after the announcement of the special counsel. and as you said that very presidential professional statement was put out clearly written by his staff. but he couldn't help himself. in the morning, h...

He reveals himself in his early morning tweets. >> the president is his own worst enemy. >> he can take care of himself. >> we look forward to getting this whole situation behind us. >> did you at any time urge former fbi director james comey to back down the investigation into michael flynn? and also, as you -- >> no, no. next question. >> the administration knew he was under criminal investigation when they hired him. >> and he is up for the most sensitive job in the white house? that should have stopped it right there. >> i mean, come on, now, this is not rocket scientist stuff. >> does any...

And ken, if there is a single rule to live by in life when you know someone is under investigation by the fbi, you just wait. you wait. you do not communicate with that person. you don'e-mail, you don't call, don't meet them for coffee. just wait until that's over. the notion that the president of the united states might be reaching out to and communicating directly or indirectly with michael flynn under an fbi investigation could -- there is just no way to finish the question i have here. this is where we are. this is what he may be doing. >> i would add some additional reporting that very mu...