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With the president and gave the message, aim higher. >> don't get personal. don't take the bait. this is not about a person. it is about a country. it is about a set of ideas. they're on the wrong side of the teacher. >>st so here's the 2020 democrats are responding to this. >> it is absolutely racist and unamerican. >> the president is a sick man. . >> right now we have a racist president who is demeaning female members of the house of representatives based on the color of your skin and their cultural heritage. >> nbc's kelly o'donnell is of at the white house. it seems as though the presiden...

Values, if you want to fight the state, and you want to make sure judges who are conservative are nominated to the federal bench, then you have to stick with me. it's a transactional argument at its core. it's about power. it's saying you may have your own personal views but if you want power you need to be with president trump. that's the core argument he and his people are making day in and day out. >> david, elise jordan here. i read your work with interest because i grew up in the evangelical southern baptist church and i almost wonder if it's less about donald trump than it is just fundam...

You allow donald trump another four years that's more than an aberration and that is an irreversible mark on the country and biden is standing on the one side of history saying i'm focused on getting rid of donald trump and the other democrats are saying donald trump's a problem and there were a lot of problems that existed and that's a fascinating construction in terms of how some democrats are looking at the problems versus others. >> what did you think, ron? >> well, it was kind of the stump speech sped up two times to fit -- two times speed. i agree with joel. it is interesting. for joe bi...

Persecution because you're a member of a group. and in the past, that has included persecution by gangs, which is very real. it has included domestic violence, which is very real. sessions tried to walk that back. that's being adjudicated in the courts. but only 10 to 15% of individuals who are applying for asylum are winning those asylum cases. the burden of proof is very hard. the main question here is are we going to treat people with respect and dignity. >> back to my other point. president trump says that congress isn't tackling this. >> well, president trump is simply wrong on this as he...

Which by the way, the advisory is not mandatory -- and he told william barr, the attorney general, not once, not twice, but three times, something completely different. >> sean: by the way, there were witnesses to this. >> he said the opinion had nothing whatsoever to do with my nondecision decision.o so who's telling the truth here? 's core argument, this man's core argument that you see on the screen is, we cannot approve the president did not commit obstruction of justice. think about what that means. that is a double negative. he is reversing the burden of proof and inverting the presumpti...