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Consistent looky, this might calm down a little bit. i heard -- i heard the seed of a legal strategy. i also took mr. giuliani seriously when he understood the role of the court of public opinion in i mean, the fact that impeachment could be the core argument in terms of losing his job is true. if they could make the legal argument strongly that he was doing his job, he might be a bad president, but being a bad president is not a crime if you don't like what he does and it becomes a matter of public opinion. i think if he can say i'm not innocent, i have a job to do, if i'm going to testify, l...

Duties simply by sitting in front of bob mueller and telling the truth. >> matt apuzzo, we were all doing fine today, complaining about the lack of volume of work until your book-length article came out in "the new york times." compelling us all to read our computers. for those who haven't yet and who are just getting home perhaps and dialing in, what did you learn in compiling this piece -- again, part of a shared byline with messers goldman and fandos -- about the origins of this. the early, early stages of this investigation, and how they moved forward to present day, especially in the chan...

Few months from july 31st when crossfire hurricane opened through the election, through the end of 2016. because the core argument that president trump is making is that inside the fbi, there was a secret ka ball working to undermine the possibility of his presidency and that they were out to get h im. and that this all started at the end of 2016. so we spent several months looking at this. and what we found that far from gunning for mr. trump, the folks at the fbi at every turn seemed to err on the side of secrecy in ways that ultimately helped the president. they had opportunities to do thin...

And that's less time than the president usually spends on the golf course over the course of a weekend. so you can hardly make an argument that the president would be deprived of his ability to execute his constitutional duties simply by sitting in front of bob mueller and telling the truth. >> matt apuzzo, we were all doing fine today, complaining about the lack of volume of work until your book-length article came out in "the new york times." for those who haven't yet and who are just getting home perhaps and dialing in, what did you learn in compiling this piece. again, part of a shared bil...

Is. not only do you have all these cities. but three weeks ago i filed an initiative. the children, family and community protection act which would overturn the sanctuary state law and would require law enforcement to cooperate with the federal government and ice. steve: sure. of course, the very core argument about sanctuary cities is those policies are needed to get illegals to cooperate with the police locally to report crime. but we have experts on this program, don, who have said that's not true. >> yeah. it's ridiculous to say that. there is no evidence to back it up, number one. and eve...