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It's rotten, a corporate pioneer, outsourcing pioneer, a rich wall street guy who wants to shaft the middle class, take care of his rich buddies on wall street. the obama team -- obama's pollster actually did focus groups on those and found out that the flip-flop argument didn't move voters nearly as much as the rotten core argument. you've seen the obama campaign really sort of employ this with greater effect over the last few months. they spent a lot of money, millions and millions of dollars, even in the last few months, making this case against romney. >> tucker: the core argument, as i un...

It's rotten, a corporate pioneer, outsourcing pioneer, a rich wall street guy who wants to shaft the middle class, take care of his rich buddies on wall street. the obama team -- obama's pollster actually did focus groups on those and found out that the flip-flop argument didn't move voters nearly as much as the rotten core argument. you've seen the obama campaign really sort of employ this with greater effect over the last few months. they spent a lot of money, millions and millions of dollars, even in the last few months, making this case against romney. >> tucker: the core argument, as i un...

The ice data base. and coincidently, the same day, created illegals hotline. in essence, when the arizona lawmakers pick up the phone, they have nothing on the other side. nothing. >> bob: they shouldn't. supreme court ruled it's illegal. >> eric: if you are illegal you pick up the phone and say -- [ speaking spanish ] basically saying i'm here illegally -- illegally -- >> greg: what did you say? >> eric: i'm here illegally. someone at ice is going to answer that one. >> bob: this is now illegal. you cannot -- the arizona cannot call and ask for documentation on anybody. that's what the suprem...

The ice data base. and coincidently, the same day, created illegals hotline. in essence, when the arizona lawmakers pick up the phone, they have nothing on the other side. nothing. >> bob: they shouldn't. supreme court ruled it's illegal. >> eric: if you are illegal you pick up the phone and say -- [ speaking spanish ] basically saying i'm here illegally -- illegally -- >> greg: what did you say? >> eric: i'm here illegally. someone at ice is going to answer that one. >> bob: this is now illegal. you cannot -- the arizona cannot call and ask for documentation on anybody. that's what the suprem...

So much about your book. you hear people complaining about how there's a split in american politics today. and what your book touches on is the fact that this goes all the way back to george washington's cabinet when alexander hamilton and thomas jefferson were yelling at each other. the campaign of 1800 as ugly as any campaign we've ever had. this tension, this give and take, is what's made us so strong over 235 years. >> well, it's true. and i think that for those who say that the constitution says x, not y, within three years of the adoption of the constitution, hamilton and madison are arg...