Someone from zillow. they have a card on the desk of how many years you have been there. >> you bought this company when you were 27 years old chl. >> leverage buyout. now worth billions of dollars. you have been through the full gamut. >> taking care of people is important. anyone that's had a shower had a good idea. there's plenty of good ideas in a company. the problem is how to get the ideas off the paper and into action. for us, billing the company and the lessons i learned early on, we have to have a core competency of recruiting for traits, not just skills. somebody with the enerly, the...