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He clerked for justice kennedy on the supreme court. and vinta gupta. former assistant attorney general at the justice department's civil rights division. here's to me the preamble for tonight. the right has felt like it was done wrong time after time. they felt like they were done wrong with justice bork when he was voted down, then that they got suter and they got kennedy, who upheld the core holding of roe. and basically my read is they have developed a process over the years for vetting that out. trey gowdy was complaining about suter and those folks. my feeling is we should take them at t...

In lonely hez. the constitution grants them the right to dignity. for more i'm joined by pete williams, nbc news justice correspondent, charlie sykes from the weekly standard and jonathan turley, university law professor. what a group. pete, we've been talking about thissing about three hours. i want to skip politics for about five minutes. i think the democratic party is loaded for bear on there baby. talk about justice kennedy. you're from california, you went to stanford. understand the nuance of what a california republican, a northern california republican is all about. i think kennedy's ...

Concerns people, not the idea that life begins at conception but that the wording of it is. >> and pete is live for us at the supreme court. pete, this eventually could end up at the supreme court if it passes. what are the legal implications of this vote down the road? >> well, clearly the people wanting this to pass in mississippi today hope that it will get here. they want this to be the vehicle to ask the supreme court to revisit roe v. wade. but it may not make it all the way here. here's the reason, andrea. it does seem a fair guess that if this does pass, the lower courts will put it on...

But no mistake about it, there's much more activity in the legislatures this year than there's been probably ever since roe was decided. >> and dalia, if the states pass these laws, abortion rights advocates are certainly free to challenge them and to try to get this before the supreme court. and yet you argue they've made a tactical decision not to raise the issue. i suppose out of fear that there's a more conservative supreme court would take the opportunity to, in fact, overrule roe versus wade? >> that's exactly right, savannah. i think the only thing that's really critical to understand i...

So that given the current climate and the mueller investigation i think is something that the democrats will want to question him about. he did say in this law review article, by the way, he didn't mean the president is above the law. he said, and i quote, if the president does something dasdardally there's the impeachment process. abortion will get a lot of questions. he wrote a case on abortion indicating he might be more conservative than justice kennedy. he was in favor of the core holding of roe. remember, he did write a decision striking down partial birth abortion. there are roughly 13 ...