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End up in the revolving courts, they have trauma, bad thing that have happened to them and they have no support and they have gotten no lover to support them, no livelihood to live for. What you need to do is provide an adequate amount of support to help them achieve the goals they want. Notice i didnt say sobriety. Im a Substance Abuse expert that doesnt believe in sobriety. The goal is to say what are we going to work on here . I want to is stop being arrested by the cops . Okay. Thats a goal. How do we achieve that . Want a roof over my head. I have yet to have a patient walk through my doo...

Diego. Tell us about the program. Is it working . Let me tell you what the program is about. Its a program where people are convicted for drink in public 5 or more times or arrested and held and if they are convicted for the crime in public. If you see it like a drug court model, thats how it works. So if we want to talk about is it successful, we can throw out a number of definitions for that. We know that drunk in public arrest are down 77 percent in san diego. Thats good for you and we can talk about Health Care Cost have been reduced by 73,000 a month on health care for people picked up by...

Was an entry to getting them locked up for 6 months and whether or not you think that People Living on the streets were you consider that a life, those people do consider it their life. So we feel that there absolutely needs to be more services for all levels. We do not feel that we need a coneject ral and problematic extra involuntary process in california and certainly not in San Francisco. Thank you. [ applause ]. I know we are going to be this hearing and discussing a lot more about Outpatient Mental Health treatment but lets take a moment to hear from danny mcclaegen from san diego. Tell ...

Their clients. Im a huge fan and knowing what we need to do is to make sure those people that need help get the help they want. Our clients are offered treatment and across the board every Single Person arrested for that are offered services an they all get help. Everyone of them gets help. And my outcomes show that they benefit from that. Thank you. [ applause ] you were a substance treatment expert for the medical center. I understand there is some promising new treatments about alcohol that maybe on the horizon. Tell us about that. As far as treatment for alcoholism, the first things to con...

If i were brought to a conference for the police, wed have a very different point of view. If i was at a conference for the District Attorney we might have a different point of view. The nice thing about this program is we are going to have a job. The police are going to arrest these. The attorneys are going to prosecute their cases and the public defenders is going to defend their client and everybody gets to do their job. They are going to do it legally, ethically, but we ask more that they do it morally. So, if im walking down the street and im pulling my dogs chain or i leave my dog outsid...