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Constantine kilimnik, who, again, according to the fbi has tied to russian intelligence. so by the transtive property, this means this is russian intelligence promulgating this false narrative that exonerates russia, right, that it was really ukraine who did the election interference, not russia. that's from the russian intel guy. that's his story. he's the one who started that. now of course we're living through that as the core weirdness at the center of the president's impeachment in 2019, these allegations now from rudy giuliani and president trump that just like russian intel says, it was...

Origin of this idea that russia didn't do it in 2016, it must have been ukraine, this alternate conspiracy that was being voiced by paul manafort, it didn't originate with manafort. it came from constantine kilimnik who according to the fbi has tied to russian intelligence. so, by the transitive property, this means this is russian intelligence promulgating this false narrative that exonerates russia, that it was really ukraine who did the election interference, not russia. that's from the russian intel guy. he started that. now of course we're living through that as the core weirdness at the ...