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people as the central players -- >> shush, don't tell them. >> well, cats out of the bag. >> it's happening. >> i think it happened today. >> thank you for the book plug, as well. thank you my friend. thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. the year was 1990. republican incumbent north carolina senator jesse helms was pulling behind his black democratic challenger, a man named harvey gantt. it was a surprisingly competitive election. so helms cold in the political consultants, who helped the helms campaign figure out a way to fight back. and this is what they came up with. th...

want to mess. all of that and more is coming up. in the good sunday morning to. you i am katie phang. as the saying goes, those who don't know history are destined to repeat. it's now this juncture after this conservative super majority on the supreme court got affirmative action in higher education instruct down where is it biden's plan to forgive more than 400 billion dollars in student debt, i think it is time that we talk about how those two things have been leaked for decades. higher education in america did not always come with such a hefty price tag. in fact through the 1950s ...

the year was 1990, republican incumbent of north carolina senator jesse helms was polling behind his black democratic challenger, a man named harvey gantt. it was a surprisingly competitive election, so home called in the political consultants who, in turn, helped the helms campaign figure out a way to fight back, and this is what they came up with, this ad. >> you needed that job, -- but they had to give it to a minority because of the racial quota. is that really fair? harvey gantt says it is. he supports the racial quota law, making the color of your skin more important in your qu...

interview. there's so much going on. we want to get the court ruling, which we will, but first, i wanted to get your thoughts, really, on the interview that you did and i want to play for our viewers the part where you did discuss what is a huge issue for the nation right now, one president who does oversee a doj, while a former president awaits trial. i want to play from your interview. >> i made a commitment that i would not in any way interfere with the justice department, who they prosecuted, if they prosecuted, how they proceeded. i've not spoken once, not one single time, with ...

investigation -- >> that is what jack smith is going in for, absolutely, this is it, this is the big show. >> what we are learning today about new subpoenas in the documents case. >> i get everything right and they indicted me. >> -- when all in starts right now. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. today in a landmark ruling that overturns decades of precedent, sweeping aside generations of arguments about racial justice and equality, the supreme court in a 6 to 3 decision, six conservatives to three liberals, effectively got rid of the use of race in college ...