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Investigation, the majority of americans saying overwhelmingly that a foreign government should not interfere with our elections, all left for the congress it to do is to prove that they did. if he did it, they've already had a jury that says we will go against him, just give us the evidence. it cannot be a good time in the white house because it all is moving the other way now. >> you know, it's interesting i had a friend reach out to me who's a traditional republican and said he wants to have coffee next week because can he not any longer support this administration. what do you do? so, i ag...

Just kind of help us cut through this. there are a lot of new names, new characters in this big ukraine story. why are they significant as it relates to rudy giuliani trying to get information out of that country? >> well, i think it's really significant because you have a couple people who in rudy giuliani has said that these are his clients. so you have rudy giuliani has definitive ties to these people and then as my colleagues ken dilanian reported yesterday, these are people that he tried to do a business deal with in ukraine in the natural gas business, which is one of the dirtiest busine...

Were aware of these efforts, but they're definitely involved in influencing the 2018 election and actually giving money to a then sitting u.s. congressman pete sessions. >> so if you could, tom, help us out. you say it's a really dirty industry, corrupt industry. give us a timeline for rudy giuliani trying to get involved in this industry and trying strike deals in ukraine. >> this goes back within the last year or two. this is really recent effort. and it's an effort that it's not clear that they actually were able to get engaged in this industry in a meaningful way or actually be involved wi...

Middle of the natural gas industry. it's a real dirty industry. you've got rudy giuliani completely mixed one these individuals and on top of that you have a federal investigation that's been going on for nearly two years now, at least a year and a half according to our reporting. so it's a significant case. >> they were effectively because of their connections to ukraine helping rudy giuliani get access inside ukraine, perhaps to find information about the bidens, for example? >> i mean, that's another huge part of this. it's not in -- it has nothing to do with the charges filed yesterday, bu...