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Reading it correctly that we believe that there is good faith basis to conclude that donald trump and members of his campaign were engaged in acts that violated the law or were designed to defraud the american people. it is, for example, a crime under title 18 to obstruct an official proceeding. it was a quintessentially official proceeding and the statements you just aired from bill barr, you know, frankly couldn't be better timed in terms of this court proceeding because basically barr is saying, i told the president these claims were b.s. and part of demonstrating the corrupt intent is show...

It warrants consideration by the court. >> explain the significance of that, garrett. >> reporter: well, i'm glad you mentioned the barr interview because that's the kind of thing i was trying to get at here. if there's a crime committed here, we're going to get into this discussion of corrupt intent. i'm not a lawyer, but we've all gone through this with mueller. we're going to go through it potentially again here. did the president know that this was b.s. and that he was trying to force not just bad legal advice but something that was clearly illegal, something he understood to be fraudulent...

I know that you attended that trial. but you also had the january 6th defendant was pleaded guilty to suggest this conspiracy, his name is joshua james. he's a member of the oath keepers. he admits, i was involved in the conspiracy. if he starts saying, donald trump was a part of it. i don't see how the doj could ignore that. >> no, i don't see how the doj has ignored the mountain of evidence regarding donald trump's criminal responsibility for all of this, that we see reported every day. and you're exactly right, when your highlighting the evidence of donald trump's corrupt intent. because us...

Cover-up. now, the jury is out. it remains to be seen whether it is a cover-up or weather as you say, it is impossibly donald trump who opted not to contact anybody on the phone, even though we have reporting that he was talking to guys like mike lee, and here is the thing. if this turns out to be evidence of a cover-up, i think my friend paul will agree with me, prosecutors view evidence of a cover-up as gold. because, now, it makes it that much easier to prove the wrongdoing in the first instance if you see that people are trying to cover up their own behavior. not only does it help you prov...

Call with ukrainian president zelenskyy back in 2019, shaken it down for dirt on a political opponent was perfectly legitimate. or when he told georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger, to just find 1100 thousand 780 votes. he really believe there was election fraud. but, when the seven hour and 30 minute gap in donald trump's phone records, on january 6th shows, is that there appears to be a real cover-up of who don't trump was talking to, while the mob was attacking in ransacking the capital. and when it cover-up shows, and this is key, is consciousness of guilt. consciousness of corrup...