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Have a corruption issue because the ukrainians had met their benchmarks to receive their con depressionly approved military aid, and then we had this amazing set of witnesses reporting and speaking directly to donald trump including today fiona hill saying john bolton told the ukrainians that you want the money? you'll get the meeting, but you're not getting the aid yet until investigations, and that's just one example. that goes directly to what was trump's state of mind as we have heard it from people who had reason to know because they report and speak directly to the

Do they have the evidence they need in your legal view to impeach? >> yes, bryan, they edo. and let me say why. they have witness after witness after with witness. there's simply not one witness who's testified in congress over the past four days off impeachment hearings who has said the president- a legitimate corruption issue. in fact have said the opposite which is the president did not have a corruption issue because the ukrainians- met their bench marks to receive their congressionally -- congressional bipartisan approved aid. and then we- this amazing set of owitness withes who establish...

But the way this played out to me seems as logical as you can do it. and particularly, when you put it into a broader framework of where this president is on concern about foreign aid, his deep-rooted concern and the corruption issue in ukraine, the experience that he had with high ranking ukrainian officials criticizing him in supporting secretary clinton in the 2016 election, put all of that together, sort of shows why it played out the way it did. that i would yield back, mr. chairman. >> mr. welch. >> thank you, mr. chairman. secretary hale, i want to go back to your support and affirmatio...

Kinds of other things they want to talk about. but the way this played out seems to me as logical as you can do it. and particular when you put it in the broader framework where this president is on concern about foreign aid, his deep-rooted concern in the corruption issue in ukraine, the experience he had with high ranking ukrainian officials criticizing him and supporting secretary clinton in the 2016 election. put all that together and it sort of i think shows why it played out the way it did. with that i yield back. >> mr. welch. >> thank you, mr. chairman. under-secretary hill, i want to ...

Crystal clear that the obama administration understood that this was a liability for hunter biden and not just the a political liability, this was a political nightmare but they decided to look the other way. >> on that point -- >> when it comes to trump, they can't control it. >> you say democrats look the other way when someone breaks the law. what law did hunter biden break? >> look, it's a corruption issue. he's abusing his relationship to his father to get special access and influence to the united states government. >> okay. so there may be questions but it's not clear that he broke any ...