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His business entities are doing lots of business with foreign ent tr entities and that's illegal. the basis of your argument is the president is involvement with clept democratic regimes in terms of his own business practices around the world. why is that not something personally bad about him or potentially criminal about his business, why is that dangerous for us as a country? >> so when the president of the united states is in business with a regime like that, that's like a stamp of approval. it doesn't matter what u.s. policy might be about corruption overseas. so then what happens is peop...

Absolutely chilling. the basis of your argument is that the president is involved with kleptocratic regimes in terms of his own business practices in countries around the world. why is that not just something personally bad about him or potentially criminal about his business? why is that dangerous for us as a country? >> so when the president of the united states is in business with a regime like that, that's like a stamp of approval, right? it doesn't matter what u.s. policy might be about corruption overseas, so then wraps is, people subjected to systemic corruption react by going to -- we ...

Thank you for being here. sarah chayes has filed a brief in this case i find absolutely chilling. the basis of your argument is the president is involved with kleptocratic regimes. corrupt regimes in terms of his own business practices in countries around the world. why is that not something personally bad about him or potentially criminal about his business, why is that dangerous for us as a country? >> so when the president of the united states is in business with a regime like that, that's like a stamp of approval. it doesn't matter what u.s. policy might be about corruption overseas. so th...