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That's why i land on the idea of having a public option which was part of ac a's intent going in. that public option might be medicare. you get the value of the creative tension of the private insurance industry having to innovate to compete for those customers or clients or patients who move to a new or lower cost alternative. >> i apologize for jumping in. we're low on typical. the question is what's the difference between what you're suggesting and what we heard from vice president biden, mayor buttigieg, because that idea has already been proposed in the race. you're adding something else....

>> i'm not worried about talking to american families across this country about their health care costs. we all know. no one disputed it on that stage. medicare for all is the lowest cost alternative to make sure that everybody gets covered. and here's the thing that i see over and over and over. because i've gone not just to blue states. those 27 states and puerto rico i've been to. i've been to blue states, i've been to red states. i've been to kermit, west virginia that calls itself the reddest of the red. i've been down south. i've been out west. people get it. this country is working grea...

It's molecular targeted therapy. it will always be more expensive. we are moving towards personalized medicine. tumors and patients respond differently. what i'm worried about as we moved towards this, this is the future of medicine, how does that fit in with a one size fit all lowest cost alternative? this drug does have some potentially serious side effects like stroke which is terrible. in the second round of testing they didn't find that it extended life beyond a month. but these are advanced cases of breast cancer. in america we have this idea we want some try everything and go to the las...