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Emergency and that the declaration violates the constitution. >> a wall is not effective, it's very expensive, it's nothing more than than -- has no merit in terms of cost effectiveness and does not support the values of our country. >> now the acting defense secretary chairman of joint chiefs will also view two other sites along the bored, aircraft and prioritize for construction by dhs, something we should point out in a letter to department of defense dhs requested, quote, fencing, while dod uses the term barrier, none of the officials used the term wall, gillian. gillian: all of it well pa...

Century solution called the wall. it's a false -- chris: okay. let's get off the politics, both of you, and let's talk about the merits of the issue. and i've got some statistics here. first of all, let's talk about the effectiveness of physical barriers. when they were put up in the yuma, arizona, sector, arrests for illegal crossings fell 94% in three years from 138,000 to 8,000. when barriers went up in san diego, arrests fell 80% in seven years from over half a million to 100,000. congressman cuellar, you voted for fencing in an appropriations bill last year, $1.3 billion for fencing, so w...

Century solution called the wall. it's a false -- chris: okay. let's get off the politics, both of you, and let's talk about the merits of the issue. and i've got some statistics here. first of all, let's talk about the effectiveness of physical barriers. when they were put up in the yuma, arizona, sector, arrests for illegal crossings fell 94% in three years from 138,000 to 8,000. when barriers went up in san diego, arrests fell 80% in seven years from over half a million to 100,000. congressman cuellar, you voted for fencing in an appropriations bill last year, $1.3 billion for fencing, so w...

Century solution called the wall. it's a false -- chris: okay. let's get off the politics, both of you, and let's talk about the merits of the issue. and i've got some statistics here. first of all, let's talk about the effectiveness of physical barriers. when they were put up in the yuma, arizona, sector, arrests for illegal crossings fell 94% in three years from 138,000 to 8,000. when barriers went up in san diego, arrests fell 80% in seven years from over half a million to 100,000. congressman cuellar, you voted for fencing in an appropriations bill last year, $1.3 billion for fencing, so w...

Migrants from countries like honduras? >> we understand a lot of people are freeing drug cartels and the united states is tied up in this. president obama worked to have a program to help address the issues in central america so that those conditions would improve and not fuel this type of migration. i think that's a very, very smart way to proceed. but this administration seems to be uninterested. in fact, they almost want there to be an immigration challenge because they are looking for some way to create something to frighten the american people during an election. we should be talking abou...