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Apologize. some interpret that as coverage for pre-existing conditions might go depending on the state. what do you say to that? >> no. what we're doing -- there's a few other parts of the bill. for example, the high risk pools, which we like to look at as a way for us to take care of these people that have pre-existing conditions. so what we're saying is, let's reduce the cost of health insurance for all americans number 1. but also let's take care of the vulnerable that are out there that have pre-existing conditions. you can do that more effectively by using money from high risk pools and u...

That represents a turnaround in public opinion. is anything going to change about the way americans get their medical care on a regular daily basis? >> well, i think that it's got to be comforting to 20 million plus americans that the republican bill was pulled from the floor would have done enormous damage to people's health care and to people's financial security. it's a real question of what does the administration do. it remains the law of the land. are they going to allow the law to work? are people still qualified for subsidies and for cost sharing if they are the low income workers. wha...

But at the same time they've been selling policies that are very conservative that basically call for making insurance less generous, have higher cost sharing, cover fewer people. now, during the campaigns they've been able to maintain this illusion. this week it's coming to a head. they had to come into a piece of legislation, the congressional budget office scored it and now they had to commit to putting something on paper. these are incompatible and you're seeing this device now between the people who want to cover more people and the people who want to strip it all away. >> jennifer, here ...

Show. >> my pleasure. have a good evening. joining me now, jonathan cohen, jennifer rubin from the "washington post" and jonathan, by the way, the president has taken the stage in nashville. we'll monitor that and see if he does, in fact, talk about health care this evening which is sort of the thing that we're looking for. jonathan illuminates the problem, the people from the right, the house freedom caucus say it's too much welfare, they want to move up when the medicaid cuts start, they essentially want to make it hurt more. i mean, they don't feel that way but they want to be less genero...

Exchanges, it is absolutely latively small percent of the american public. those are the ones, about 6%, those are the ones hardest hit with these high premiums and high de ductable plans. we're in agreement we need to find a way to make insurance less expensive. for those right now who qualify for the tax subsidies, that's the best thing we have going. we can get premium support for them as well as the out of pocket cost sharing. if we're going to work on this together, these are some of the areas we think are really important to be able to lower the overall cost of health care and health ins...