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Don't have more on camera briefings here at the pentagon. every time the president says something controversial, how much you want to couch it, it puts his senior officials in difficult positions. we with say do you agree and that's a very difficult position for guys like jim mattis to be in because in many ways the president's comments are indefensible. there's many people inside this building that have great respect for all he did in his special forces community. they don't want to be in a position to choose publicly between their boss and their friend. >> kevin. >> yes. hans the right. ther...

Own complicity in his behavior. i could care less if he used the "n" word ever in his life. his history of racism is clear, well documented. we try to couch it by using different words. he's insensitive, et cetera. she has known all of this. but what is disappointing is that when it came to her personally being fired and the issue in the situation room was very interesting. i have been in the situation room before. you're not allowed to bring phones in there. so i guess clearly chief of staff kelly was concerned about being taped. but i think that it's disappointing she rests everything on his...

There's a reason he wants to interview the president, and he will push forward to get there. but i think he will go step by step. >> this is obviously a departure from what the president had said publicly although he did sort of couch it as a caveat about his lawyer. >> he's big on bravado as we know. he said this privately too for weeks. i'd love to go in there. he genuinely seems to believe in these private conversations that he can go in and talk his way out of almost anything. but realistically you heard him add that asterisk of depending on what my lawyers say, but otherwise i'd be thrill...

Way, whether it is tillerson, mattis, somebody else, how much lee way will this president give to members of his cabinet to top advisors, to air any sort of dissatisfaction, however they couch it, because you can read the mattis one between the -- a lot of reading between the lines there. but president can probably read between the lines when he sees that clip. >> right. the president is no fan criticism, particularly against himself. he sent a fund-raising e-mail today based on i think the subject line is isolated, question mark. he is trying to fight the fake news. anyone saying he is isolat...

And then once they're sick, the cost of not having health insurance are a lot worse than the cost of having it. >> same thing? >> not the same thing! not the same thing! stop it. obama talked to like three time as long because he was trying on couch it. he created an image of a sobering person looking at their budget and counting costs. and jason was like, americans are like shiny phones. it is not the same thing. stop it. >> especially when he is explaining about a budget and then he said health care costs more on the back end than the front end. so i understand. people will be mad. how much ...