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That looked like restrictions on gun ownership and making sure we could prevent people who shouldn't have them, couldn't get guns. and now we have background checks within our grasp. we just need a few republican senators to use their head to embrace common sense and to embrace the 90% of americans and moms and dads across the country who drop their kids off at school every morning so that they can know comfortably that it is much less likely in america that a bad person can't get a gun. not that we're putting more guns in the hands of people who shouldn't have them. >> finally, very quickly, ...

Every year or shoot others with guns is out of control. call me crazy. i think it's absolutely shameful. so i want to try and reduce the gun violence, not increase it. >> you don't reduce, you don't reduce gun violence or any violence by taking guns away from law-abiding citizens. >> you actually do. you actually do. >> you should have figured that out by now. secondly -- >> if you go to japan or britain or australia or a number of other countries i could name where they have very strict gun control laws, it is so difficult to get your hands on guns, you don't have the gun violence. it is a pr...

>> you're not saying everyone -- how many should have guns? >> anyone that's permitted and goes through the right training, sir, i think should be able to carry a gun. long as they go through the proper government safety laws, sir. >> and get the training. get the certifications that all gun owners are required to have to have a concealed hand gun permit on their person. >> on their person. >> dan patrick, let me come to you. do you agree with this? >> yes. in fact, i thought you were going to have a new issue tonight, piers. i thought you would want banning of knives all over america because ...

Klan were photographed and then you had the vietnam war debate change dramatically when you had the hideous pictures of american troops and so on. would it change things? >> i got to tell you, any senator or member of the house of representatives that isn't very familiar with what happened in newtown and columbine and aurora has been living in a cave some place. people get it. but what -- you have to find what chuck schumer calls the sweet spot. you have to do the doable. and the doable always was the universal background check and where i have to, although i have great respect for kelly ann, ...

>> joining me now is congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz, good friend of gabby giffords and chair of the democratic national committee. welcome back to you. it was a very, very moving interview and fascinating in many ways because you have this scene of mark kelly firing a very similar glock gun to the one that obviously was used to shoot gabby, and she slightly jumps when he does it but they both say they are gun owners and they like guns. this is not what their campaign is about. tell me more about their philosophy on this. >> sure. gabby and mark have been strong supporters of the second...