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I i would prefer us to say we tried and we had all the republicans bought off by the big money interests and two democrats who couldn't stand with us. give us more democrats and m the first week of a new congress, we will pass this. that's better to me than just to be negotiating forever and standing for nothing. >> vermont senator bernie sanders, the chairman of the budget committee. i really appreciate you making time tonight. >> thank you very much. let's bring in another conversation now, one of the sen tram players in the effort to craft this build back better deal, washington congressw...

But it would be even sadder if the american people said these people stand for nothing. not only can't they get anything done, they don't believe in anything. they don't have the guts to take on powerful special interests. i would prefer us to say we tried and we had all the republicans bought off by the big money interests and two democrats who couldn't stand with us. give us more democrats, and in the first week of a new congress, we will pass this. that's better to me than just to be negotiating forever and standing for nothing. >> vermont senator bernie sanders, the chairman of the senate ...

I think nothing is done until it's done. and i think our job right now is to lay out to the people of west virginia what's at stake here. the people of america what's at stake here. we've got to pass this bill. it would be really, really, really sad if we were not successful. but it would be even sadder if the american people said, these people stand for nothing. not only can't they get anything done, they don't believe in anything and i would prefer us to be able to say look, we tried. and we had all of the republicans bought off by the big money interest and we have two democrats who couldn'...

Lobbying right now? is that the democratic party? do they have the guts to take on the private insurance company who do not want us to expand medicare and dental? do we have the courage to do what the scientists are telling us has to be done and transform our energy system away from fossil fuel? so the issue is not just mr. manchin. it would be really said if someone worked really hard on this and we were not successful. but it would be even sater if the american people said, these people stand for nothing. not only can't they get anything done, they don't believe in anything. they don't have ...