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Years later he's telling me this. he goes, "i lived with the fact, but this is what they were telling us, that they were going to fight to the last man." you cover it in your book. they said between 250,000 and 1 million americans. >> you read my book? >> it was fantastic. >> "countdown 1945," available on amazon. >> it really is great. >> but your point is exactly right, which i think people fail to realize, and i didn't until i wrote, studied and wrote the book. which is, it's not like you're going to kill all these people in hiroshima or nothing's going to happen. >> right. >> if you don't ...

Live with the fact that -- but this is what they are telling us. they were going to fight until the last man and that we were going to -- covered in your book, 250,000 and the million americans. >> you read my book? >> i did read it. >> it's called countdown 1945, and it's available on amazon. >> it really is, not to be shamelessly pumping your book, but it really is great. what would you have done? i probably would have had a head of gray hair, presidents hair goes white, you know. it's funny because when you look at it, you think there's already one choice to make, but you look at the people...

Suggest separate competitions. >> i'm not in favor of the ban, the legislation sweeping the country to ban transgender individuals from competing in sports all together but i think we need policies. we're in an emerging environment where we have to think carefully and not rush to judgment too quickly. chris: she says she hopes policies provide that middle way. even if they don't, please, everyone, how do you respond to the criticism you're going to get. >> all you have to do is look at us as individuals and look at how far and how hard we work for providing a fair playing field for athletes, i...