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>> i think there's a tribal element to our country today and it's beyond just politics. it's politics, culture, where you lib, your view -- live, your view of faith h it's all kind of stuff. obviously, there's clicks and money to be made in playing to one of those tribes. it's not all of us. i think we're following, not leading. but we certainly add to it. howie: i would say we're contributing. you have he detailed scenes with pinetta finding out about the intel that bin laden may be hiding in a home in pakistan. you have him briefing obama. was it easier to get people to talk about this 10 ye...
Know if it's true or not. when obama makes the decision to launch the raid, he said it's no more than 50/50. you have the seals on the helicopter, they think it's a one way suicide mission and they'll end up dead. if you can transmit that, it seems to me that the biggest compliment somebody paid, i know how the story ends but i was on the edge of my seat the last 100 pages. howie: you had a top navy seal in the operation promised his mom he wouldn't get involved in any more risky efforts like this. >> he said i'm sorry i made that promise to my mom, he's the one that killed bin laden we stayed...
Military operation. they're justifyabley proud of it. you start with people lower down who are more likely to talk to you. once you persuade them that you're serious and want to tell the whole story, you build up, almost like an organized crime investigation, you start with the small fry and try to get to the central figures. howie: the book is a page-turner, as was your last book on the atomic bomb. is it hard when so much is written about this and everybody knows how the story ends? >> yes, but i tried to write it as a thriller. my feeling -- this will sound presumptuous -- i think history i...
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