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Because while that biden approach may have received some criticism, it may receive some criticism in the future to, but i try to get people to understand and consider just how much different and quite honestly, worst off we'd be in right now, if president trump was still in office, and handling the situation. how do you see that possibility, that reality, if you will, of how we are now, versus where we could have been? >> well, that's an interesting counter fact. i'm gonna say a couple of things. if president trump was reelected, he would be super confident in his foreign policy skills, right?...

>> so why did a deal have to be made? could the sanctions have just remain in place? and the status quo just remained in place? >> well, the counter fact, the administration based their policy in the fact, sustainable sanctions, particularly the russians and the chinese were not possible. at some point, the russians and chinese would break with the europeans. presumably we keep the europeans on board. at some point iran might make the decision to accelerate its program. the israelis would be put in the difficult position of having to consider a unilateral military strike. or the administration...

Sanctions relief. the legitimacy of an iran that is now open for business to the europeans, the russians and the chinese. to get the deal we've acquiesced in the most egregious forms of behavior in yemen, supporting the houthis, even the issue militias. we will still leave iran with enough of an infrastructure to weaponize, should they and i'm not arguing they will. should they make the decision to do so. so there are no good deals with iran. only deals with various degrees of risk and the president rolled the dice and took a risk. >> so why did a deal have to be made? could the sanctions have...

>> it has nothing to do with stop-and-frisk. >> it has so much to do with stop-and-frisk. >> you guys don't let me finish my sentence. >> you're trying to move a counter fact the all. the fact is the number of murders has gone from 2,200 in the early '90s to 420. >> because of stop-and-frisk. >> we had global warming during that period. you can blame it on global warming. these two things happen at the same time. show me the study. >> again, you can't prove -- it's a rerun of woody allen movies stopping people from going out. come on, this is ridiculous. >> it's a good policy when used correct...

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