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You heard scott walker, former governor of wisconsin, and the latest republican to say it's a mistake for trump to skip the debate. do you agree with him? >> no, brianna. by the way it's kind of scary that we've got a year to go until the -- we're going to do this for another year. everybody, strap in. listen, i think scott walker's wrong on this. trump only has one way to go if he shows up, is down. you're ahead 30 plus points. he has a commanding lead. he's sucking up all the oxygen in the room. if somebody lands a glove on him during the debate, he goes down. i think at this point in the ca...

Different conversation. but i expect him to be the strong front-runner even after missing this first debate. >> what do you think is the big political moment this week? the surrender in fulton county or the debate? >> the surrender's going to be much bigger. it's the biggest thing to happen in atlanta since they surrendered the city to sherman in 1864. it's going to be huge. and the fact that trump's not at the debate in person -- he'll there be, he'll dominate, because he's -- but he's ahead by so much. i think kristen's right, you're making the right decision not to come to thdebate. i think...

The kind of eyeballs and audiences that donald trump wants? >> yeah, i don't think it's gonna be that successful as a counter programming. if you look at it based on the ratings on wednesday night, they'll be some donald trump super fans, and tucker carlson super fans that tune into that instead of the debate. those folks will be with donald trump anyway. and people who are still looking around, they'll tune into the debate. where he can take the spotlight away from what happens on stage if you end up with a ten-person stage, nine persons stage, with a very boring -- without a lot of backdrop....

Four indictments. why is he doing? that one, it's political advantageous to him to make this about a battle between him and joe biden. on the other hand, the other reason he's doing it is because he is flirting with the rules here by talking about president biden and not anybody who is directly implicated, the legal, proceedings he's helping to stay on the right side of the line with respect to the rules that judges have set forward for him to avoid dragging his conditions of release and making his current legal situation anywhere for him. , lisa and when dina and greg, thank you so much for b...

Indicted thing, the jail thing, he's still so far ahead in the race. sitting at 62% according to a new cbs poll out just this morning. as he just conformed on truth social, he won't show up. we're not surprised by that. but he confirmed it just this evening. and notably, he said he wouldn't be doing the debates plural. so not just this week, but after that to. on wednesday, and what i predict be a lackluster display of counter programming. we're expect to see trump in a taped sit-down interview with tucker carlson on the platform formerly known as twitter. this debates going to be one where th...