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this, week we expect donald trump to skip the debate, which, by the, way is on fox news. instead, he will sit down with former fox news host, tucker carlson. the interview has yet to be confirmed. earlier this month, top leadership at fox had dinner with trump at the bedminster home, they were reportedly urging him to participate in the debate. trump has repeatedly attacked the network on truth social over the supposed unfavorable coverage of him. just last, week trump's attorney, helena bob appeared on fox in france after trump was indicted with his indictment in georgia. a case considered to be the most dangerous when he faces. check out what happened when the host talked about the nature of the case. >> that does president trump know that this is a threat? >> we don't agree that it is a perilous threat. we have inside information and i love -- >> the inside information. you used to love trump.

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four indictments. why is he doing? that one, it's political advantageous to him to make this about a battle between him and joe biden. on the other hand, the other reason he's doing it is because he is flirting with the rules here by talking about president biden and not anybody who is directly implicated, the legal, proceedings he's helping to stay on the right side of the line with respect to the rules that judges have set forward for him to avoid dragging his conditions of release and making his current legal situation anywhere for him. , lisa and when dina and greg, thank you so much for being with us. >> the counter programming anna mount down from the echo chamber. >> plus, tropical storm hilary starts to deliver heavy rain to southern california, we will bring you the latest on the forecast. stay with us. stay with us ...to not only enhance the fan experience, but to advance how the game is played. now's the time to see what america's largest 5g network can do for your business.

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middle ground, the middleman, he is wrapping the rains from self. that is what's actually unfolding right. now, so, your point, that's really important. it's that what we are seeing, it's not just internal fights or business. it's actually about who's going to control the leverage of political power on the right. by extension, all the consequences that come with that. right now, it looks like trump is about to grab the reins. >> angel carson, i always appreciate that you watch so we don't have to. thank you so much for your time and for being with us. still ahead, a debating is both an art and a science. we will take a look back at some of the most memorable moments from the primary debate stage. first we will get an update on the potentially dangerous situation, our media lenses has the faith latest forecast as we track hillary. world. for years, i thought my t.e.d. was beyond help... but then i asked my doctor about tepezza.

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both meadows and pence. well, pence as usual, we see. it he is trying to have it both ways. he says he did not see. it he was not aware of it. and then qualifies it to say that doesn't mean it didn't happen. in other, words he is relying on other people to sort of really put the knife into trump's chest. he is not going to stand in their way doing it. >> a man, we will watch some of that this week. i imagine as well. i am also curious, lisa, meadows is just filing a motion to dismiss the fulton county charges. arguing he was simply carrying out the duties. i wonder what the court is to make up the claim? >> i think it is a more serious claim than some of those that we've seen. on the other, hand i don't think it's likely to succeed. the reason is, when mark meadows was acting during that period of time following the election, it doesn't really matter where he sat. he could've sat with any oval office or the dining. room what matters, whose purpose he was carrying out the orders. trump, the president, trump the

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house, you have got one choice. that is to vote for joe biden. the fact of the matter is that this is not about joe biden's age. this is about the democracy. as we get closer to the election, they will see. that i am telling, you after wednesday, and whatever transpires, the craziness on that stage, people are going to be starting to understand this as we get closer. >> as a reminder of the extraordinary times they were living through, that debate, it might not be the marquee political news of the week. all eyes are on the fulton county jail, where donald trump must surrender by friday. joining us now, anita tolliver, host of crooked medias, what a day podcast. serving as chief strategist for the bush cheney 2004 presidential campaign. and the author of flipped, how georgia turned purple and broke the monopoly on republican power. all three are msnbc political analysts or contributors. matt, we will start with you. trump just confirmed that he will not show up via his social media platform. rnc chair mcdaniel only begging on national tv for him to show

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it. and then fox then moves in order to respond to these attacks and these threats. this is how we got into that hole quagmire and the insurrection and election lies. fox was in line for a couple days until trump pulled them along by harnessing the fox audience. that's what you're seeing play out here. when you are looking beyond, this when i look around bend, every single time this has come, up there has been flash points or tension moments. trump has won this talk of war with fox news and the media and then pulled them along. the consequences have been bad for all of us and for our democracy. that's where i want to go with. this i don't care about where they are or not to, doing the point is, and a thriving democracy, you have a multi party system, the party, the political parties are robust. you have multiple media entities that are stand-alone and robust. the fact that he is calling the shots is part of what we need

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crunching. as we understand it today, former arkansas governor asa hutchinson qualified for the debate again. i have not seen that confirmed by the rnc. if he's on that, stage along with chris christie service the people that are most likely to prosecute the case against donald trump. i wonder how they build that case against trump. it is an argument that they're making to the audience? whatever that audience is that is watching the debate? is it an argument that they are making about the other people on the stage who refused to do the same. >> i think it's both. it is one of the few distinguishing factors that we have seen over the last gop primary field. asa hutchinson, chris christie, they've been consistent in calling out donald, trump who is facing 91 criminal counts right now. it is logical. it makes logical sense. let's be real about the audience, they don't really follow logic all the time. the gop base has made it explicitly clear that they do

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have it both ways. he's calling on the party to move on from donald trump. , yet he still says that he would still back whoever the nominee is. l that includes the man who try to oust him from office. >> lisa, some of trump's alleged acts of conspiracy, they are tweets. i wonder what that could mean for his social media moving forward if he is listening to his lawyers. if you are his lawyers what is it, juanita, i understand this. i think we all do. so, a big f, asterisks all around, it what addenda does look? like it's much more careful. >> he isn't being more careful. the last few days one of the things i've noticed in the social media posts is a turn away from statements about witnesses and participants in the judicial process and much more of a focus on biden. in particular and attack line that biden is the person that did this to. him joe biden is directly responsible for each of these

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is supporting. >> i wonder, i know what we see on the surface. there are republicans who are willing in this very specific incidents out of georgia to call the former president out. i wonder how much the fulton county indictment is changing the georgia gop's larger relationship. not just with trump, with trumpism. >> yes, there are two factions of the republicans. there are those who crawl the former president out, there are the sort of maga wings, the marjorie taylor greene,'s the bird jones, the head of the state republican party, david schaffer, the successor, josh. they are more aligned with donald trump. either way, look, they see the polls. there is a poll that came out this weekend at a republican conference where donald trump was not and indicted. the folks are ready to move on to the -- there is a hush. the poll showed that donald trump has 53% of the support of georgia republicans. like the primary voters. that is a wake up call. and that's why you're seeing governor kemp sort of try to

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