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Change message to neutralize, that is where joe biden is going. is that necessary? >> what i do think, once an issue reaches a certain level of consciousness in the electorate, you don't have to have message and position of your opponent, but you have to have something. something usually beats nothing, that is where democrats found themselves on wrong side of things in 2016, the president was making an argument about how some of these trade arrangements were no longer working to benefit of the american worker and instead of offering their own approach to dealing with that, democrats in a sense...

The average shows him 11 points ahead of trump in the state. the president. that is assuming biden makes it through the primary, not a sure thing for anybody. peter is in washington. it is early, peter. >> it is early, five months before ballots are cost, the key to biden campaign success is keystone state. he went to pittsburgh to announce the run and kickoff the campaign. president trump went there last night for counter programming. >> pres. trump: sleepy joe said that he's running to "save the world." he was going to save every country, but ours. and remember, he said a week ago, china is ...

Genuine. but i wonder if he's a little bit tone deaf to what the base of the party is really looking for. these are not normal times. in fact these are very urgent times. he's coming across sounding a little bit he's coming across sounding a little bit kinder and gentler than the severity of the situation we're facing with the president requires. >> you think he didn't know that, that the party was in a ferocious mood. how could he not know that? >> he knows that, i think he's trying to be above it, and you know, kudos to him for that for sure. >> i think he knows what's going on. i think he's...

So there's this kind of right wing international group of terrorists who communicate online, but we don't target them in the same way that we target jihadist organizations. we do a lot of counter programming. we do a lot of counter propaganda to try to take down, for example, islamic state websites. weep don't have the same kind of effort to take down white supremacist, far right winged websit websites. we need to get after it. otherwise, you'll see more body counts and more carnage. >> do you think it's unfair -- i had a couple of questions quickly. do you think it's unfair to put some onus o...

Which is still a thriving business. how has the jackson family been pushing back against the allegations? >> they have released a counter programming allowing people to watch the concert from michael jackson. they also sued hbo which shares the same parent company as cnn. hbo basically said that they are going to release the film. they said that in a statement that releasing the film will allow everyone the opportunity to assess the film and the claims in it for themselves. >> the trouble with this and some of these allegations have been -- michael jackson went on trial for similar accusations...