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Agents have reportedly been speaking with on this matter, kenneth mccallion, also the author of the book "treason and betrayal: the rise and fall of individual one." mr. mccallion, thanks for coming in. i appreciate you being here in person. >> thank you very much. >> "usa today" and cnn both reported on your interactions with counterintelligence agents. what kinds of questions were they asking you, how did you know they were counterintelligence agents? >> well, i've been talking with fbi agents and these particular agents going all the way back to 2013 and the start of the investigation of pa...

Agents have reportedly been speaking with on this matter, kenneth mccallion, also the author of the book "treason & betrayal: the rise and fall of individual 1." mr. mccallion, thanks for coming in. i appreciate you being here in person. thanks a lot. >> thank you very much. >> "usa today" and cnn both reported on your interactions with counterintelligence agents. what kinds of questions were they asking you, how did you know they were counterintelligence agents? >> well, i've been talking with fbi agents and these particular agents going all the way back to 2013 and the start of the investiga...

New tonight, the federal investigation into president trump's lawyer rudy giuliani includes a counterintelligence probe. that's according to sources familiar with the matter and it's just days after authorities brought charges against four of giuliani's associates. sources tell cnn it is clear there could be more charges in the investigation. evan peres is out front. you're not talking a counterintelligence investigation into the president of the united states' personal attorney. sometimes it's worthwhile to put the simple facts in, and let me take a deep breath here of the significance, what ...

Only about these two men igor fruman and lev parnas, two of the guys indicted last week, but also about their ties to rudy giuliani. they were interested in whether there were any counterintelligence concerns that arose from those ties, those business dealings. so that's the first indication we have that prosecutors in new york have been digging into this much longer than we all realized. >> wow. then who in new york, who at sdny is investigating it? >> reporter: we know not only are these counterintelligence agents and counterintelligence people working on it we know the people who do public ...

Of the cia came out and said there is too much information coming out, all of these counter-intelligence agents are looking at every little piece of information they can get, and what you do is you start putting that information together, and you say, hey, wait a minute, only certain number of people could know that kind of information, and then it kind of intensifies the search for somebody like that. and that's probably what happened. and that's why, you know, the obama administration, they said wow, there is a lot coming out that we use, for public discourse, and diplomacy, and i'm sure tha...