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Along with a strong alliance of nato members. not this time. this president is getting rolled. he got rolled by erdogan. he got rolled by kim jong-un. he's getting rolled by putin. putin's not only in saudi arabia, by the way, signing massive deals on trade, he's in uae today. so he is actually, you know, running circles around the president in the middle east, and, you know, and there's israel, you know, they've got to be a little worried at this point because this is empowering iran even more because he pulled out of the iranian deal without any substitute. so things are a mess here because ...

And they had sidelined bolton and secretary of state mike pompeo had not spoken to bolton in a long time and was also freezing him out. and so what we did not know was that bolton was probably making life very complicated for these other people. that we were not, you know, at the time aware were running a sort of a de facto, separate, secretary of -- i mean, state department and national security operati operation. that's gordon sondland who's the eu ambassador, had no business running a ukraine operation, as you say. a black ops ukraine operation with rudy giuliani. and so, bolton knows way t...

Totally outside what any normal sense of how, like, lawyers are supposed to conduct themselves if they're behaving as lawyers, i think that's now put him as enormous risk. >> i think if you're mike pompeo and still entertain a fantasy about having a career as an elected official, if you're mike pence, you want to be the guy standing should this not work out for donald j., the model exists and it is don mcgahn who served this president, confronted this president and maybe john bolton sort of was a student of that model, but rudy giuliani clearly is not. >> and here's the thing. giuliani has so ...

Any of those things, maybe a neutron bomb that blows things up and leaves buildings intact. the most important things as we go forward are two things, one of which related to the appearance of mick mulvaney in the picture. we had previously talked about the three previous stooges who had the high stooges at the high table, rudy giuliani, bill barr, and mike pompeo. we now have mick mulvaney drawn into this, so currently people who should be subpoenaed, i would guess almost certainly will be subpoenaed are the secretary of state, john bolton the top national security adviser at the time, the wh...

Brings me to another point which is someone of the reasons why the house democrats seem to have hit a certain amount of momentum, which is something they have long struggled with, is if you sort of read between the lines here, there's actually a lot of willing witnesses who are eager to go up and testify. and so as soon as they get that subpoena that gives them cover to kind of defy what the white house is saying, unlike in some -- in the mueller investigation, in some other things that we in the media and investigators have been trying to get to the bottom of, you have people who basically, t...