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♪ oh, what a relief it is! here's a trivia question for you. what do calvin cool ij and grover cleveland and johnson have in common? they were all presidents at one point but there's something else we're going for here. before they were all president, at some point in their rise to power, they were all mayors of cities. and these days, maybe that's the answer for democrats who want to make a name for themselves in the national arena. that would be a departure from reason -- let me show you why this is something we may be talking about. has to do with this. they call this donald trump's fav...

County map of the country, and in 2016 there were 235 counties where president trump either won, but did worse than mitt romney but at least two points or where romney won, but it flipped to the democratic side last year. these establishment republican counties produced 11 million votes for trump. but consider this. there were 1,839 counties where trump won and did better than romney by at least two percentage points. those counties set trump 18 million votes towards his victory. 18 million to 11 million, you don't need a degree in math to know which side is bigger. the trump base counties pro...

Think the people around him as the politico story reported that you need to feed him a certain amount of good news because especially the lastew weeks he's been in a pretty foul mood. the map that we've all seen, the county by county map of the counties he won compared by hillary clinton which basically shows a red united states i've seen on the oval office desk, something he's keeping copies around to sort of cheer him up as he goes through the day and recently hung a copy of it on the wall. the problem is a lot of good news right now is not true news. >> no, no, it's fake. >> and -- and it i...

He encouraged me to take it home to my colleagues at "the washington post" and try to run it on the front page of our newspaper. so he cares a lot about that map. he cares a lot about these states. >> i'm sorry. he on his 100th day interview five months after the election wanted "the washington post" to run the election map on the cover? >> he did. i think he was sort of playing there, but it speaks to the pride that he has in that map, and he was showing it to his visitors. and, you know, he feels very strongly that it was redder than an electoral victory map has ever been, and he wants to do...

Ever been, and he wants to do good by those people. >> can i ask you about the map? was it the county map? is it the map by counties that shows huge swaths of red because -- >> yeah. it was broken down by county. some of these counties are very small, but it was very, very red. >> phillip rucker, thanks for your time tonight. >> thank you very much. >> joining me now, academy award winning documentary filmmaker, author, and activist michael moore. >> there's 5,000 people on my block here in new york city. >> that map, what's funny about that map is it's a real conservative meme because it's so...