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Disgusting interpretation of children the way that he does, and it's really telling that those are the kind of people that the trump administration is putting in charge of caring for vulnerable children. >> yeah, and i mean you yourself come from a refugee background. you know what it is like, you know, what these children are going through on a certain level. but a different soort rt of wel when we actually open our arms to wonderful people like yourself who come as refugees. go on. >> i mean, many of americans really in this country have come through, you know, escaping atrocities, looking f...

Ever been, and he wants to do good by those people. >> can i ask you about the map? was it the county map? is it the map by counties that shows huge swaths of red because -- >> yeah. it was broken down by county. some of these counties are very small, but it was very, very red. >> phillip rucker, thanks for your time tonight. >> thank you very much. >> joining me now, academy award winning documentary filmmaker, author, and activist michael moore. >> there's 5,000 people on my block here in new york city. >> that map, what's funny about that map is it's a real conservative meme because it's so...