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Inside Politics With John King

ongoing challenge and have former president trump launching another campaign and still spewing all of this so this problem has not gone away by any means. the midterms played out better than any feared but there's still a lot of work the country has to do and the threat of violence and people listening to their leaders and really distrusting and acting on what their leaders are telling them to do. >> president trump has been, you know, fueling this himself with comments about this. this is one of the reasons you're seeing this big push in the lame duck to fix the electoral counteract before the end of the year to prevent january 6th repeat and they know that they can only pass it before republicans take control of the house. that's going to be one -- >> to your point and appreciate optimism needs to be brought into the conversation. i'm serious. maricopa county does this well, proved right in 2020. you are mentioned georgia. the state where the governor and secretary of state stood up to donald trump in 2020, they did a good job counting votes again here in 2022 and they have a senate runoff that will be a

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Inside Politics With John King

arizona is again proving itself to be ground zero for election denial and conspiracies. rural co-cheese county now being sued by the state because it refused to certify its election results by the deadline. the state's largest county maricopa did meet yesterday's deadline but the meeting to certify the result, listen here, marked by anger, lies and conspiracy. >> i came here today to get an up close and personal look at the seven traitors to the united states constitution. >> this is vote trafficking. at its finest. i've seen the criminal element. you are vote traffickers. >> these men are born sinners, lying from their earliest words, they are poisonous, deadly snakes. >> dominion machine, you guys know they're dangerous. you know they're corrupt. >> our reporters are back at the

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Erin Burnett OutFront

>> number one, if you look at the map here, two uncalled governor's race, one is alaska, rank choiced voting, second and choice of the candidates below 50%. the other one is arizona. what am i looking for, how many votes do we get out of maricopa county and out of pima county and is that enough to make a projection? if you look at the result right now with kyung, katie hobbs is ahead by 24,719 votes, kari lake at 49.5 and hobbs apt 50.5. when the new votes come in statewide, kari lake needs to probably get 55%, 57% somewhere in that ballpark so when we get the big major drop of votes from maricopa county, the largest outstanding batch of votes still to be count, when we get those, is kari lake running anywhere near that numbers. that's where it matters most. getting 48% in maricopa count toe 52 for katie hobbs. kari lake has to be closer to 55% when the votes come in and see if she's matching that mum and there are more votes in pima

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Erin Burnett OutFront

"outfont" breaking news, we're moments away from a big drop of votes that could determine who wins the arizona governor's race. it is election night in america continued, and arizona's largest county maricopa is expected to release its big drop. new numbers within the hour. this is according to bill gates, the top election official there. as of right now 85,000 to 95,000 votes still need to be counted in maricopa county so if we're going to get a big bulk that have that's hugely significant that. has tensions running high and authorities bringing in extra security because arizona, of course, is home to the neck and neck governor's race between kari lake and the democrat katie hobbs. lake trails hobbs as you can see by 24,719 votes, but what did i just say? massive drop coming. 85,000 to 95,000 votes outstanding. the question is will this race be called tonight? lake, who, of course, is an election denier, is on the record saying this as the votes are being counted.

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Erin Burnett OutFront

county, not as many in maricopa. pima, the second largest county, maricopa the largest county, when you pull out and look at the map, they are both blue. katie hobbs has been leading in both of those counties. if she leads in the remaining vote installment she's the next governor. if not later installments, you know, kari lake can come back the math gets interesting. we are expecting the maricopa votes in the next hour. that's the biggest sign. will it be enough to protect the race? up clear. mathematically are there enough if they break one way? yes. will they? we'll know in an hour or so. >> thanks very much, john king as we watch that. just a little bit over 40, 45 minutes here until we expect that very significant development out of arizona. and next, former vice president mike pence breaking his silence tonight about whether the man that he loyally served for four years should ever be president again. >> that's up to the american

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Erin Burnett OutFront

well, that number goes higher because she has come in under her target in four counties and we are waiting next hour for a giant vote report from maricopa county. the hill is getting schemer for the republican challenger. the orders are better for the democratic leader at the moment. >> very significant. 85 to 95,000 votes out of maricopa. we expect them coming momentarily, john, of course, and you heard the secretary of state-elect saying he believes that it may be possible to make a call in that race tonight which would mean in these next minutes. we will wait and see that vote drop coming from those four counties. katie hobbs expanding her lead. as we wait, next ukraine's president zelenskyy making a visit to kherson, declaring the beginning of the end of the war, celebrating a victory for ukraine and a major setback for vladimir putin. and up to 320 miles of range on a full charge.

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Erin Burnett OutFront

we're standing by for what election officials say is a huge drop of new votes in arizona where the race for governor is still too close to call. democrat katie hobbs has a narrow lead over republican kari lake who has been an election denier. so far democrats have been successful in defeating other election deniers. "outfront" right now is the arizona secretary of state elect and former top election official in maricopa county. i really appreciate your time. let me just ask you in terms of where we are now.

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Erin Burnett OutFront

i know any minute now literally in the next couple of minutes we could get a big vote drop from pima county, home of tucson and maricopa coming any minute. you're intimately familiar with the vote-counting process there, and we do expect they say, 85,000 to 95,000, we'll get all the final votes in tonight. do you expect there will be a call in the governor's race tonight? >> i think there might very well be given the buffer that tucson is going to potentially provide for secretary hobbs in that governor's race. it's a democratic strong hold. we got tons of support down there and obviously very grateful for that, and maricopa is much more competitive depending on where those ballots actually come from. the call could very welcome tonight. look, arizona election officials have been doing an amazing job be and one of the things is that we have to temper expectations. we have a very good election system here. it doesn't take -- it's not quick, as quick as the media would like, but it's thorough

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Erin Burnett OutFront

for her to be hurling insults out there the way that she has done, it's very disappointing, and i hope, you know, if she does become governor that she eel change her tune regarding the way had a she addresses her fellow arizonans in order that she can become an effective leader if that becomes the case. >> secretary-elect, states make their own rules on elections, right, and they do it their individual way. bill gates, the top elections official overseeing the count in maricopa county sort of went bullet by bullet comparing arizona to florida to say, look, i know that they have early voting. i know they have mail-in and i know they get their results right away and we don't and explaining why, all right. so it all makes sense and what you're doing is by the book and you get an accurate count. do you think though in your new role that you're going to push towards changes and procedures that could make arizona count more quickly? >> frankly no. there's no reason to. just because we're living in a

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Erin Burnett OutFront

>> i have very little faith in some of the people that are operating that maricopa county elections. i think they are incompetent. >> as i said that, drop expected within the hour. this is a crucial night in arizona, but it is just one of a number of races that are too early to call at this moment. control of the entire house of representatives is still up for grabs. this is six days after election day. democrat, of course, need to secure 218 seats to control all the power in washington, but while that is not impossible, democrat chances of getting that power are narrowing tonight. there is a lot to get, to so let's go to arizona, but we'll begin in colorado because that's one of the closest house races playing out right now that could determine the entire balance of pour. john king is also with us tonight. i want to start with you in phoenix, kyung. look, this is a crucial night. kari lake's campaign is watching this. this could be the night where we really get the number of votes

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