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So you have the better part of two full days where investigators have no idea where he was, what he was doing. what do you think the odds are that there may be other packages? this guy's pace was unbelievable in the last eight days. so what do you make of this? do you believe there might be other packages? >> his pace is troubling. that is the concern there could be. the only thing you would do now, err on the side that there are packages out there and have the community mobilized. look what is happening now. they're cautiously approaching the house and getting ready to search it. they have to...

>> shepard: how could it not? >> right. they saw people losing their home. maybe mom and dad's 401(k) was devastated. hey say -- >> shepard: why overextend myself? i'll stay here for a while. get a couple roommates. that's what they've done. >> they share. >> shepard: is that what motivates them? do the surveys suggest it's that reality of seeing that almost depression that did this or are there more factors? >> i didn't find the survey was very good explaining why. remember, it was a survey. i have to tell you this, sometimes people lie to surveys. >> shepard: no! probably done by a gen-xor. ...

Stressed out, 21 pilots. >> yes, 21 pilots decided to accept their grammy without pants. but there is a story, which according to the band member tyler johnson, began in columbus years ago before their music got off the ground. >> i called him up and said, hey, josh, do you want to come over to my rental house and watch the grammys? he said, yeah, who is hanging there? i said, a couple roommates, come and watch the gloomies with us. as we were watching, we noticed that every single one of us was in our underwear. and seriously, josh turned to me, and we were no one at that time, and he said, i...

And sideswiped the taylor university van, ripping it open. the impact flung passengers and their belongings all over the interstate. five of the nine people on the van were killed instantly. they were transported to the county hospital. the four survivors all suffered injuries, some serious. one young woman had been thrown 50 feet from the wreckage. she was barely breathing and was quickly airlifted to the nearest trauma center, parkview hospital in ft. wayne. that's where laura van ryn's family was told to go. they arrived at about 1:15 in the morning. >> in the lobby right there there were a...