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Generational divide sometimes because, you know, i'm a gen xor, millennial if anybody asks. but in real life, the way we view our work is sometimes different than younger people. it's really been younger people out on the front lines saying hey, i need a minute here, or, you know, prioritizing their mental health in a way that we just weren't raised to do, quite frankly. what's your take on it? >> no, i think you're right. have i two younger siblings. i'm here with them now at my parents' house. and the difference they're saying you don't have to live that way. you don't have to be exhausted a...

Had an opportunity to watch that entire segment this morning. and i will tell you that that, first of all, didn't surprise me at all. i mean that's the story of me as a black person growing up in fort worth, texas. oftentimes people forget i'm a gen xor. i'm in my 40s. we were the first generation of kids to go k through 12 in the dallas independent school district and the fort worth independent school district which i went through. we were the first kids to actually go through that school system completely integrated k through 12. oftentimes in school kids would use the n-word over and over a...

Years of middling growth. i came back from iraq in the summer of 2008 when the crisis was kicking off. i represent a generation of veterans, millennials, gen-xor, we've been waiting for our time. this now feels like our team. so there's a very positive sense from the veteran entrepreneurs that we speak with. >> trish: great to hear. i think it has been tough for people sort of coming of age in this economy at a time when we have had so many challenges from 2008 on. and there's really been no way for them to quite get ahead. except maybe unless they had money in the market. that was the beauty ...

>> shepard: how could it not? >> right. they saw people losing their home. maybe mom and dad's 401(k) was devastated. hey say -- >> shepard: why overextend myself? i'll stay here for a while. get a couple roommates. that's what they've done. >> they share. >> shepard: is that what motivates them? do the surveys suggest it's that reality of seeing that almost depression that did this or are there more factors? >> i didn't find the survey was very good explaining why. remember, it was a survey. i have to tell you this, sometimes people lie to surveys. >> shepard: no! probably done by a gen-xor. ...