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We did, we have a mock jury. we did two different juries, one with him testifying and one without him testifying. it was substantially better when he testified. to a market degree. that sealed it. in wisconsin, if you don't put a client on the stand, you're going to lose. neck. it's at the beginning. when the attorney gave his opening statement and said that kyle chase rosenbaum down, i don't know where that came from to this day. it was ridiculous. that gave me something to really show and argue to a jury that this isn't fair. it's not a game. i think that was huge. michael console and i stre...

>> sandra: we'll see what the judge has to say. he has lowered his microphone. when he began speaking when we can hear it, will bring it in. andrew mccarthy joins us now. andy, take us through the deliberations. kyle rittenhouse faces multiple charges, first-degree intentional homicide for shooting two men and wounding a third in kenosha, wisconsin. your expectation for what's happening right now? >> i think we really do have a verdict. when i say that, what i mean is i have been saying all along i thought they were headed toward a mistrial. it's a very straightforward case and they seem to be...

Said he went to arizona state. the happiest i've ever seen kyle in the past year and months or three months was the day that he received his arizona state university student i.d. that was the happiest i've ever seen him outside of one he received his dog in january. so he wants to go to college. we are not going anywhere. we are going to make sure and do everything we can to make sure that he's able to live as normal of a life as possible moving forward. i think you went to see some great things coming out of kyle in the next few years. >> safety was a top priority for you throughout this enti...

Violent conduct, he was avenging -- protecting property and the like. those are things that play into legally that instruction that was given the jury for provocation. the jury could have bought it and said this guy came there looking for a fight. therefore extinguished his right to self-defense. it has a very real potential for impact on as you slide the wheels of justice. here, judge schroeder singh i don't know if i ever want to have another live trial again because of the frightening aspect obviously, it weighs against the criminal code in the public code in wisconsin. the impact is very r...

0 this. do you secondhand gift? >> i don't but my mom gave me a purse i've had for years. it is a chanel purse. >> every time i kids have birthday parties, i put the stuff they forget they own and i give it to the next kids birthday parties. >> brilliance on a friday. thank you to everyone for watching and here is "america reports." >> sandra: fox news alert. on this friday afternoon we are watching for a possible verdict to come down in kenosha, wisconsin, was the jury there deliberates for what is a fourth day in the kyle rittenhouse child. we'll see. hello, everyone. i am sandra smith in ne...