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Research, and it was mostly focused on china. then i think after that meeting, and then on the 27th of september i received an email from him with several attachments. i can be honest with you, tucker, i haven't even opened those attachments to this day. i have no idea what was in them, but mostly papers titled that dealt with china. i think he used my meeting as a -- using my meeting as a bona fide with george papadopoulos, to have a meeting with him, that i did not know about, that was subsequent to my meeting with him on the 1st of september. >> so you didn't know him before? he emailed you...

Be with one of the fbi spies on that campaign. sam clovis joins us. thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me on. >> you believe you had a face-to-face encounter. describe that meeting. >> several days before the september 1st meeting i had an opportunity to receive emails from steven halper, saying he knew carter page, and asked for a sit-down with me. he wanted to come in and discuss foreign policy and to provide some -- what he thought might be his -- some of his writings that would be able to contribute, help us, in the campaign. i arranged that meeting. we had that meeting in washingt...

From the defense secretary made exclusively to cnn. let's turn to jim acosta. is this new operation iraq response to carter's comments do you think? >> reporter: well i don't know about that michaela but the white house is certainly doing some fence mending with the iraqis after defense secretary ash carter questioned their will to fight in the battle against isis within hours after iraqi prime minister al badi responded basically saying flat wrong about their will to fight. vice president joe biden called the iraqi leader to praise the bravery of his country's forces. here's that comment from...