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let's hear a little of their conversation. let me ask about the most powerful person coming to cop26, president biden. he hasjust announced a £500,000,000,000 plan to deal with climate change and has been working very, very hard with congress and so forth. how well you think he is doing and could it be a real leader on climate change? qt doing and could it be a real leader on climate change?— on climate change? of course everybody _ on climate change? of course everybody has _ on climate change? of course everybody has the _ on climate change? of course everybody has the possibilityl on climate change? of course i everybody has the possibility but on climate change? of course - everybody has the possibility but if they continue right now, no. t just they continue right now, no. i 'ust wonder what fl they continue right now, no. i 'ust wonder what more i they continue right now, no. i 'ust wonder what more he i they continue right now, no. i 'ust wonder what more he can i they continue right now, no. ijust wonder what more he can do. he is challenging in the courts to stop mining and oil extraction on federal land. he is using up all his political capital in congress to try to get this through. he is working quite hard. taste to get this through. he is working uuite hard. ~ . , ., quite hard. we all understand activists, we _ quite hard. we all understand activists, we understand - quite hard. we all understand activists, we understand thisl activists, we understand this doesn't fall on one single person, but of course when you are a leader of the most powerful country in the
in their court. how do you think the judges will view this overall? the 'ud . es judges will view this overall? the judges individually will have different views about it, and you have _ different views about it, and you have described the spectrum. it is important — have described the spectrum. it is important for me to explain what i am proposing and hopefully draw them alon- am proposing and hopefully draw them along with _ am proposing and hopefully draw them along with me, but what i'm proposing involves piloting the proposals to courts and the purpose of piloting _ proposals to courts and the purpose of piloting them is to see how they work— of piloting them is to see how they work out — of piloting them is to see how they work out. and of course we will listen _ work out. and of course we will listen to — work out. and of course we will listen to views and recommendations for change. _ listen to views and recommendations for change, and consider it step—by—step along the way. what he's proposing our plans that will be discussed, then they will be piloted in a couple of locations in england and wales, and then he will go from there. so nothing will happen immediately, but as i said, a radical change that is being proposed. radical change that is being proposed-— radical change that is being --roosed. ., ~ i. , radical change that is being --roosed. . ~' , . proposed. 0k, thank you very much indeed. the clear—up has begun in cumbria after some a0 homes were flooded
for the first time, journalists are to be allowed to report family court hearings in england and wales. the most seniorjudge in the family division, sir andrew mcfarlane, says a perception of excessive secrecy is harming the reputation of the courts, but stressed that identities would still be protected. our correspondent sanchia berg has been investigating this issue. would it be fair to say there had been previous attempts to try and reform the family courts? why now? the pressure has been building because previous efforts didn't get very far. i have been trying to report the family court since journalists were first allowed in, 12 years ago. we can only report if thejudge gives his or her 12 years ago. we can only report if the judge gives his or her express permission for us to do so. so the proposals today would be a really radical change because we would be able to sit in court, listen to cases and report what we see and hear bearing in mind we can't
being the principle that is adhered to is more — being the principle that is adhered to is more powerful and i'm confident— to is more powerful and i'm confident that we can strive to enhance — confident that we can strive to enhance the anonymity that is afforded — enhance the anonymity that is afforded to the parties. you said there was a _ afforded to the parties. you said there was a risk— afforded to the parties. you said there was a risk the _ afforded to the parties. you said there was a risk the courts - afforded to the parties. you said| there was a risk the courts would suffer serious reputational damage if there wasn't greater transparency, why is that? tt is if there wasn't greater transparency, why is that? it is not health i transparency, why is that? it is not healthy i think— transparency, why is that? it is not healthy i think for _ transparency, why is that? it is not healthy i think for society - transparency, why is that? it is not healthy i think for society to - healthy i think for society to understand there is something called the secret— understand there is something called the secret family court but not understand what goes on behind closed _ understand what goes on behind closed doors, and therefore to assume — closed doors, and therefore to assume that what goes on may not be satisfactory _ assume that what goes on may not be satisfactory. it is, i believe, satisfactory, and i think we have a duty to _ satisfactory, and i think we have a duty to allow through press reporting the public to understand far more _ reporting the public to understand far more of what goes on day by day up far more of what goes on day by day up and _ far more of what goes on day by day up and down the country in the family— up and down the country in the family courts. | up and down the country in the family courts.— family courts. i have spoken to 'udaes family courts. i have spoken to judges who _ family courts. i have spoken to judges who support _ family courts. i have spoken to judges who support the - family courts. i have spoken to - judges who support the transparency initiatives and i have also encountered in courtjudges who are not very supportive of journalists
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