Ferguson, former george w. Bush Administration Justice from an official john you and awardwinning author shall be steel it up first, here is a portion of a 2013 interview with George Scholz, secretary of state during the reagan administration. He talked about his book, issues on my mind. And issues on my mind you right when it comes to terrorism we in this country must think hard about the moral stakes involved if we truly believe in our Democratic Values and our way of life, we must be willing to defend them. Passive measures are unlikely to suffice and means a more active defense and deterrence must be considered and given the necessary political support. Well, you say if you have a Law Enforcement approach, you say, okay, let a terrorist act happen and then we find out who did it and then we try them in a u. S. Court and if we make them guilty with their endless appeals they go to jail. Well, what does that accomplish . A certain deterrent but in the meantime the terrorist act has t
Let me start by introducing our guests, then we will talk a little bit were looking forward have summing you ask questions as well. The reason im very excited about this book but also about our guest is its a rare thing to be good at Public Service, to be a person of action. Its also a rare thing to be a scholar and to be excellent at the study of something. Both the bring that to the tabl table. Was someone who worked in many places in Public Service on congress to several departments with the department of labor. Also importantly at the white house which is what these books are about this book in several of his other books. Hes also got a published author is written in addition to this peace on the white house pieces about intellectuals in the white house as well as Emergency Preparedness at the white house and the use of social media by president s. So i hope you will take the time to listen, but also to think about buying this book. The fourth of july coming up we have president s
While to discuss that im now joined by David Hammond arsen a Research Fellow with the Hoover Institution at Stanford University professor henderson its good to talk to you thank you very much for your time and if youre actually now one of the things that has been possible in me is that all of the call that 19 pandemic is that in many countries its economists spread merrily liberally minded economists who are very much in favor of the strictest lowdown possible while many at the dimmy all exist and other Public Health professionals are a forum or are reserved about such tools mashers how do you explain that. What i think it what economists did early on starting in march the reason university of chicago study was they took the most extreme. Model which was the Imperial College of london model which has been shown to be fundamentally flawed and they said ok lets take that as given and then lets look at lets kind of see what policies will save how many lives and they came up with us an ast
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Which was the Imperial College london model which has been shown to be fundamentally flawed and they said ok lets take that as given and then lets look at lets kind of see what policies will save how many lives and they came up with us an astounding measure 1760000 wives which now by the way birch really no one believes that anyway thats what they said and then they took this value of a statistical life that economists talk about i can explain that a little more she was multiplied one by the other and valar got almost a trillion dollars in benefits and they said well lock downs are extremely costly but they are going to cost close to a trillion so therefore we should do it. Is was it an economic consideration rather than a moral or ideological one thats correct but by the way i should have said lockdowns let me just read you what they study they study combining home isolation of suspect cases home koren 1000 of those living in the same household as suspect cases and social distancing o