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Those individuals, i think that what we're going to find what this individual is that there are some really interesting similarities here. you know, both of those previous who individuals snowden manning. they were sort of disillusioned with some aspect of our government or the state of affairs in in this country what we were doing. and so you know that when we think about why, what's the what's the reason behind this is that this is very similar to those sorts of things with regard to what we do here. you know, we talk a lot about this issue of over classification and who has access to these ...

“Sometimes we get in our own way, by over-classifying, over-compartmentalizing,” Gen. David Berger said.

“Sometimes we get in our own way, by over-classifying, over-compartmentalizing,” Gen. David Berger said.

Director of national intelligence couldn't tell them more about the documents in a closed hearing. we're getting a fresh sound bite from arvil haynes about issues that she has with over classification. >> first, we need to continue working on the development of a system that develops the appropriate classification system and minimizes what is classified as an initial matter. second we need to facilitate the down grading and declassification of information as it ages to promote sharing and disclosure when possible to promote a better public debate and enhangsed account ability and trust and to ...

Documents, it might need some teeth in it. this all cries out for great investigation, and hopefully that will result from this confusion. >> the over-classification is a relevant one, but that would be less relevant when you're talking about special programs, access, et cetera, at least relates to the documents that were found in trump's house. doug heye, should all at least of those men -- trump, biden and pence -- be looking at each other with some sort of comfort in numbers, right? as opposed to the likelihood of legal consequences. >> certainly we think it could increase. does jimmy carte...