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Before it's voted on in the house so there won't be any understanding of what it will mean for coverage numbers or the costs incurred by the american people by the legislation, so it's very different. and in that respect it was easier for us because people were able to understand what they were voting on before they come up. >> let me make one comment on that. it's not quite that -- because republicans back when the king -- bill was being in the supreme court, they realize ld they would have to replace it with legislation and did a lot of work at that time. that was two years ago. last spring ...

Major changes are made, if this -- the concerns about the coverage numbers are not assuaged at any point. that more than anything else why you see republican leaders telling the white house, look, you need to stay unified with us, you can't freelance because those are the members that in the end they believe will be the hardest to bring around. >> phil mattingly, thanks. back with the panel. you have to white house pushing back on the cbo report but only kind of part of it, embracing other aspects. >> they like the deficit reduction part of it because it reduces the deficit $337 billion over t...

So those are the good side, on the difficult side are the coverage numbers which everybody acknowledges was a problem and i don't think surprised republicans, but cbo numbers are useful to tell legislatures where they should be making improvements. >> what about the politics of all this. we know speaker ryan doesn't want to budge and again the white house acknowledging this would need to be changed to get through the senate. this is a radio interview with speaker ryan just this morning. >> we wrote this bill with our friends in the white house and the senate. >> which friends in the white hous...

House bill. it's about one million fewer, but still, if you start with that as the baseline and then you say, okay, what if you expand health savings accounts, give people deductions towards the purchase of insurance. you could easily see where a market base plan with lower premiums would result in lower insurance coverage than this republican plan that goes out of it's way to make so many nods to obamacare. >> and it's interesting, as you're warning there you say against republicans getting into battles over coverage numbers. just as you were talking about that, we got this tweet from a repub...

Would be more people, you're saying, more people would not be covered under this republican replacement plan than if you just did away with the obamacare completely. can you explain that? >> yeah, sure. and to be clear, i'm not just for full repeal. i'm for full repeal and a more market-based alternative than the one that republicans are pushing. and here's the bottom line. is that the argument on the right has always been on health care. how much government are we willing to take to try to expand coverage? and basically, you had free market purists that basically say, let's focus on costs, le...