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Facility and i also would like to ask you how i can help to these children to reunite with their families as quickly as possible. >> at the same time melania trump was making a surprise visit to a shelter for migrant children her husband was doubling down on his zero tolerance policy. the president claimed melania and ivanka were influential in his signing of an executive order ending his policy in theory of separating migrant children from their parents. of course, ivanka's pr machine would certainly like to encourage you that belief. joining me now two people with insight into the trump fami...

>> you know the first lady's spokespeople say that it was on her initiative that the president was aware she was going to make this trip but it was not at his instruction. i think gimp her behavior in the past, she has been pretty reluctant to be a tool of the administration and of the pr machine at the white house. i assume that's correct that this was a decision she made. i think she might have had an audience of one mind and that audience of one would be the president. her husband. saying this is something i care about. her focus down there was not on people coming over the border or gangs....

Executive branch. now, one of the interesting things here, stephanie, is when president trump evidently asked for this reference to russia in that letter about firing comey, he wanted the government, once again, to function as his own personal pr machine. and this goes to how president trump views institutions in the united states. they are not there to serve the people. they are there to serve him and the people who run those institutions are most importantly there to protect him. >> oh, goodness. could this potentially get rosenstein in trouble? >> i think what we're seeing is two rosenstein...

Apologize when it becomes public. where is sheryl sandburg, by the way? that's why she's at this company. >> this pr response has been a disaster. i know they have some of the most well paid professionals in public relations in the world on retainer but the slowness of the response can only be attributed to mark zuckerberg and how quickly he wanted to respond. >> yes, because the skills of their pr machine has always been to keep everyone absolutely away from facebook. and when you have access to mark or sheryl, it is never access to dig into what goes on at the company. it's access to sheryl ...

Senate intelligence committees looking into the matter. this is an insane thing that's happening in the middle of several different even more insane things. >> the president is sort of, i think he'd be the first to say, a st mmaster brander, ultimate marketer, knows how to sell his pitch he says to speak to the american people. on that specifically, it seems like the white house, the president is kind of getting beaten at its own game. the attorney for stormy daniels has built a pr machine by himself and keeps this story in the news now for approaching two weeks ahead of this big interview wit...